Nice Trachycarpus

[SailorBold]

Here is a nice Trachy I saw today..  if you look closely its planted under a roof drain.  Does anyone know the normal rainfall trachies receive in their native habitat?

[Allen]

Nice Trachy.  They seem to like water.  Not sure how much they get in habitat.

[kinzyjr]

The Hubei province is supposed to be one of their native areas.  The city of Wuhan gets a little more than 50 inches of rain per year, per Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan#Climate

[mdsonofthesouth]

I'm curious as to the coldest native environment for trachycarpus.

[SailorBold]

 

On 12/3/2019 at 5:22 PM, kinzyjr said:

The Hubei province is supposed to be one of their native areas.  The city of Wuhan gets a little more than 50 inches of rain per year, per Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan#Climate

Thanks for that.. Im going to try and mimic those conditions..  sounds simple enough.. although we get roughly 9" a year.

 

10 hours ago, mdsonofthesouth said:

I'm curious as to the coldest native environment for trachycarpus.

Wuhan looks pretty cool at least for the high temperatures during the winter..  Not sure where all the Trachies native areas are..   we need a trachy expert.

[mdsonofthesouth]

15 hours ago, SailorBold said:

 

Thanks for that.. Im going to try and mimic those conditions..  sounds simple enough.. although we get roughly 9" a year.

 

Wuhan looks pretty cool at least for the high temperatures during the winter..  Not sure where all the Trachies native areas are..   we need a trachy expert.

I remember some time ago seeing a takil native range with lows in the low 20s something like 21 to 23F for the coldest month! Was hoping fortunei wasn't too much higher. Wuhan looks a bit warmer on the low end but about the same for the highs in January. I figure I'm still rather marginal for all but takil and maybe waggies. If I cannot get a regular fortunei to go here I'll just baby a takil, waggie and a Bulgarian and call it for trunking palms (outside of my chamaerops and cerifera).

Edited December 6, 2019 by mdsonofthesouth

[Flow]

On 12/4/2019 at 2:22 AM, kinzyjr said:

The Hubei province is supposed to be one of their native areas.  The city of Wuhan gets a little more than 50 inches of rain per year, per Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan#Climate

That is about what we get here but our summers are cooler and winters a tad colder but no T. fortunei has ever died of too much rain alone around here. What kills them here is when temperatures stay below -10/12C for too long and/or if the ground freezes solid.

Edited December 6, 2019 by Flow

[Las Palmas Norte]

Standing or pooling water in the root zone is not good. Often this kills 'em outright.

Cheers.

[Chester B]

6 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Standing or pooling water in the root zone is not good. Often this kills 'em outright.

Cheers.

I think Banana Joe would disagree based on a bunch of his videos. From my own personal experience extra wet or submerged conditions periodically don’t bother them.  Dry will kill them but their tolerance of wet conditions is surprising. 

[mdsonofthesouth]

Banana Joe has some he has dubbed trachycarpus fortunes swampsonei.

 

 

 

[Chester B]

The one palm nursery by me has a field of waggies that they use for seed and they grow in standing water a few months out of the year.  The owner tells me that the water table is very high in that location.  My own fastest growing fortunei's are in forever mucky, saturated soils that remain that way from underground springs.  Whenever I dig near them it has an anoxic smell, but they don't seem to mind.  They grow at double the pace of ones i have in more well draining locations.  These are my own personal experiences.