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New Sabal Variety?

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I planted a couple of hundred Sabal Mexicanas about 2 years ago. All look like the one on the right, the one on the left is the exception. I've never seen Sabal that small grow above the soil.

Has anyone seen this before?

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Edited by Dimovi

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I put the wrong image. Not sure why it won't let me edit the post. Below is the right image.IMG_20191026_114827.thumb.jpg.df6211f543add584bafa68991d6eeb0d.jpg

It's caused by a auxin hormonal imbalance.  Normal seedling growth should rotate between leaf, stem, and root production but on rare occasions  will get 'stuck' and continue to produce auxins that focus on growth in the same area, in this cause stem production.  It usually returns to normal growth but not always.

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Thanks!

I'll document its progress.

 

That's really interesting, I hope you keep it around in the ground to see how it shapes up. It looks greener than the other plants in the photo. I guess that's one advantage to growing a large number of seeds, you can find the anomalies.

What are you planning to do with so many Sabals? I just collected a few hundred mexicana seeds from around town. I keep a broom and dustpan and grocery bag in my trunk.

Here's 2 of them...

 

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The one on the left looks a lot like Allagoptera arenaria seedling.

Warrior Palm Princess, Satellite Beach, Florida

Or even a Phoenix canariensis/ dactylifera.

Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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On 11/3/2019 at 8:10 AM, Brian F. Austin said:

That's really interesting, I hope you keep it around in the ground to see how it shapes up. It looks greener than the other plants in the photo. I guess that's one advantage to growing a large number of seeds, you can find the anomalies.

What are you planning to do with so many Sabals? I just collected a few hundred mexicana seeds from around town. I keep a broom and dustpan and grocery bag in my trunk.

Here's 2 of them...

 

IMG_0167.thumb.jpeg.4035f85b108caece7f1cd47fa0ce85f5.jpeg

I know this place off of 38th near Guadalupe :)

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3025215,-97.7377023,3a,75y,227.01h,97.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sblL-86BeAjuNBJDx9tddCw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

My house is near a greenbelt and I intend to plant a bunch like a forest, similar to their natural habitat along the Rio Grande.

There is a creek down the street that I believe might have been seeded by these guys. I was there yesterday. It is really cool to see wild Sabals grow in the shady creeks. Their fronds get extremely long.

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.295122,-97.7392301,3a,75y,218.71h,93.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6SPyVcJK_m4clEN4YkwAOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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16 hours ago, James760 said:

Or even a Phoenix canariensis/ dactylifera.

Yes, that is what I thought. The trunk looks just like Phoenix Dactylifera, which I have a few of. The leaves however look identical to the other Sabals, and the color is a lot bluer and darker than the Dates.

3 hours ago, Dimovi said:

I know this place off of 38th near Guadalupe :)

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3025215,-97.7377023,3a,75y,227.01h,97.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sblL-86BeAjuNBJDx9tddCw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

My house is near a greenbelt and I intend to plant a bunch like a forest, similar to their natural habitat along the Rio Grande.

There is a creek down the street that I believe might have been seeded by these guys. I was there yesterday. It is really cool to see wild Sabals grow in the shady creeks. Their fronds get extremely long.

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.295122,-97.7392301,3a,75y,218.71h,93.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6SPyVcJK_m4clEN4YkwAOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Hi Dimovi, Yes it's an apartment complex right off Guadalupe. Past years they trimmed the flower stalks before seeds are produced.

The palms at the library on 2200 hancock are dropping lots of seeds too. I picked up an HEB bag full of them this morning. I have some family acreage I plan to seed the bottom land with these.

I'm worried I've already planted too many here at the house. Especially the uresanas and causiariums.

Edited by Brian F. Austin

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