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Burretiokentia first flowering...

quaman58
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Hi all, 

It’s always neat when a palm defies the odds (in my garden) and grows to maturity. I purchased this  B. Dumasii as a liner in 2010 or early 2011. It’s always been an easy, moderately fast grower, way better for me than khogiensis which I’ve alwsays ended up killing. Thanks for looking!

Bret

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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    Cigars for all.  Looks great!

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    Wunderbar!

    5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

     

    Only took about 9 years to set seed......well done!

     

    Congratulations, Bret.  Always fun to see palms reach a new milestone. 

    Huntington Beach, CA

    USDA Zone 10a/10b

    Sunset Zone 24

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    Thanks all for the kind comments. 

    Steve, the spindle just grows and grows. But it fries every winter, which is a drag. It’s got 3 nice green leaves and a couple damaged from last winter. Come December, it’ll have 5 fried leaves. :(

    Jim, these are the fastest Burretiokentia for me. Hapala is not terrible, but definitely slower. The salmon colored leaf is a bonus!

    joe, looking forward to progress pics of yours!

    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

    27 minutes ago, quaman58 said:

    Thanks all for the kind comments. 

    Steve, the spindle just grows and grows. But it fries every winter, which is a drag. It’s got 3 nice green leaves and a couple damaged from last winter. Come December, it’ll have 5 fried leaves. :(

    Jim, these are the fastest Burretiokentia for me. Hapala is not terrible, but definitely slower. The salmon colored leaf is a bonus!

    joe, looking forward to progress pics of yours!

    Is the spindle facing north?

    5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

     

    Congrats. Btw, you are not alone with the B. khogiensis. <_<

    1 hour ago, quaman58 said:

    Thanks all for the kind comments. 

    Steve, the spindle just grows and grows. But it fries every winter, which is a drag. It’s got 3 nice green leaves and a couple damaged from last winter. Come December, it’ll have 5 fried leaves. :(

    Jim, these are the fastest Burretiokentia for me. Hapala is not terrible, but definitely slower. The salmon colored leaf is a bonus!

    joe, looking forward to progress pics of yours!

    B hapala has two inflos now.  Fingers crossed!

    Huntington Beach, CA

    USDA Zone 10a/10b

    Sunset Zone 24

    4 hours ago, quaman58 said:

    I purchased this  B. Dumasii as a liner in 2010 or early 2011. It’s always been an easy, moderately fast grower, way better for me than koghiensis which I’ve always ended up killing.

    The B dumasii looks great and that seems pretty darn quick from a liner to that size in 8-9 years.  I would call that fast, not just moderately fast.  Interesting that it's been easier than the B koghiensis.  While I had problems with smaller specimens of Burretiokentia koghiensis having wobbly root systems, when I started with something larger it has done well and grown at about the same speed as my Burretiokentia hapala at a similar age.  Did the Burretiokentia dumasii have a weak root system at the 1-3 gallon sizes?  How long did you wait to plant it from that liner size when acquired?

    33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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    Alex, the spindle is a bit exposed, about 10' East of my front porch.  Seems to me that anything less than about 35F fry the leaf tips. Nothing remotely serious to it's overall health, but really diminishes it's aesthetic appeal. Well grown ones are beautiful.

    Tracey, it's never had a problem wit weak roots. For that matter, either did the Khogi. But the Khogi hated exposure to full sun when small. I must have dug it up 3 times & re-potted it, where it would recover nicely, only to repeat the process a few months later in a different location. Finally, we both just gave up..

     

    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

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    Thought I'd post an update. I find it interesting that different palms can flower on vastly different time frames. Many of the thin trunked Dypsis go from developing spathes to ripe seed in as little as 3 months.  Even a relatively large palm  like Beccariophoenix followed a pretty quick time table, about four months from spathe to ripe seed. This Burretiokentia  is taking its time,  just beginning after about eight months to have flowers opening.  I suspect the seed development will be just as slow. Thanks for looking!

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    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

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    Very cool Bret! Can I have dibs to purchase one seed in 2022?

    "it's not dead it's sleeping"

    Santee ca, zone10a/9b

    18 miles from the ocean

    avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

    Wow wunderbar as @GottmitAlexsaid!

    Hmm I’ve had opposite experiences viz-a-viz koghiensis; dumasii croaks for me!

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    1 hour ago, Stevetoad said:

    Very cool Bret! Can I have dibs to purchase one seed in 2022?

    Ha! Funny Steve; of course you can. I'll even sign you up for two since you've been taking care of that Dypsis of mine for 3 or 4 years. We can meet up and make the exchange then....

    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

    37 minutes ago, quaman58 said:

    Ha! Funny Steve; of course you can. I'll even sign you up for two since you've been taking care of that Dypsis of mine for 3 or 4 years. We can meet up and make the exchange then....

    It’s in the ground now and has a 18ft tap root, extremely toxic sap and probably covid-19 . So that will be difficult. I do have some lovely sabal minors that are everywhere and a few taraxacum officinale left though. 

    "it's not dead it's sleeping"

    Santee ca, zone10a/9b

    18 miles from the ocean

    avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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    A final update: 2 years from the emergent spathe to ripening fruits; these NewCals sure take their time.. 

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    Bret

     

    Coastal canyon area of San Diego

     

    "In the shadow of the Cross"

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    30 minutes ago, quaman58 said:

    A final update: 2 years from the emergent spathe to ripening fruits; these NewCals sure take their time.. 

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    Wow. 2 years.  But hey! The seeds made it through our cool winters.  Gorgeous palm!

    5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

     

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