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Has anyone here ever planted noncold hardy cheap palms as annuals before? I have a pot full of Ravenea rivularis that are not looking too good and that I don't really want (in a pot, or to take up space inside during the winter). I am considering planting them in my planted just to have them there during the summer, obviously they would die in the late fall or early winter. Has anyone done this? 

Excuse any misspelled words in the title, I typed this on my phone and did not notice it until I submitted the thread. 

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Where I live up north here southern Ontario latitude 43 degrees most palms are sold as annuals. People put 14 foot coconuts by their pools for the spring summer and let them go. Only the chosen few pay to store their palms over winter or have tall enough ceilings 

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I have two foxtails in the ground. They are pretty marginal here. Some people have been able to get 5 to 7 years out of them before they freeze to death. I bought mine last summer as 15 gallon for $50 each. They did fine through the winter and have already opened new fronds. They are 9 or 10 feet tall overall. 

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Majesty palms.  Nuff said.

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Just planted them. This will be fun for the summer! 

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3 hours ago, Rickybobby said:

Where I live up north here southern Ontario latitude 43 degrees most palms are sold as annuals. People put 14 foot coconuts by their pools for the spring summer and let them go. Only the chosen few pay to store their palms over winter or have tall enough ceilings 

They sell lots of palms like that here. We can grow a handful of hardy palms outdoor with no issue and they rarely sell any of those here. 

2 hours ago, Jeff985 said:

I have two foxtails in the ground. They are pretty marginal here. Some people have been able to get 5 to 7 years out of them before they freeze to death. I bought mine last summer as 15 gallon for $50 each. They did fine through the winter and have already opened new fronds. They are 9 or 10 feet tall overall. 

Awesome! Do you have a picture?

54 minutes ago, Chester B said:

Majesty palms.  Nuff said.

Haha! Yep! 

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16 minutes ago, PalmTreeDude said:

They sell lots of palms like that here. We can grow a handful of hardy palms outdoor with no issue and they rarely sell any of those here. 

Awesome! Do you have a picture?

Haha! Yep! 

 

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20 hours ago, Jeff985 said:

 

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Nice! 

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Recently got these majesty's at lowes for 1.00$. They had some deficiencys and needed water. Sunlight, warmth, fertilizer, and water they will grow like rockets. I couldn't spend more than 10$ for a plant to die and only have it for a season. Even with my Lantanna that I plant I dig them up every fall and they overwinter in the garage.

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I personally don't see the point of growing palms as annuals. If I were to ever buy a majesty palm, I would at least try to provide some extreme winter protection. 

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Zone 8a/8b Greenville, NC 

Zone 9a/9b Bluffton, SC

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8 hours ago, NC_Palms said:

I personally don't see the point of growing palms as annuals. If I were to ever buy a majesty palm, I would at least try to provide some extreme winter protection. 

In my case I didn’t plant foxtails intending for them to be annuals. I planted them knowing they could be annuals. It doesn’t get cold enough here to kill every year, but it does happen. When I planted them I hoped to get three or four years out of them but knew that that freeze could come at anytime and they may not even make it through their first winter. As far as planting majesties in colder climates knowing they won’t survive their first winter goes. Why not? They are so cheap and mass produced. Last year I bought a few of them for $3 each. If it adds a tropical feel to your property for the summer go for it. 

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Back when I lived in Michigan, everything was an annual.  After a few years I gave up, stuff would start looking nice by about August and be dead by October.  Initially here in FL I only planted palms that are guaranteed to be cold hardy (Livistona, Phoenix, Butia, etc).  But those are sort of "anchors" and I used marginal palms like Bottles, Majesty, Coconuts, Foxtails as fillers.  They give it a nice tropical look even though I know that one cold 25F night will wipe out half of them.

So I say, plant away!  

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1 minute ago, Merlyn2220 said:

Back when I lived in Michigan, everything was an annual.  After a few years I gave up, stuff would start looking nice by about August and be dead by October.  Initially here in FL I only planted palms that are guaranteed to be cold hardy (Livistona, Phoenix, Butia, etc).  But those are sort of "anchors" and I used marginal palms like Bottles, Majesty, Coconuts, Foxtails as fillers.  They give it a nice tropical look even though I know that one cold 25F night will wipe out half of them.

So I say, plant away!  

Your strategy sounds very similar to mine, minus the coconuts and bottles. 

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On the grand scale, Longwood Gardens in Pennsylvania used fairly large palms as bedding plants.  This was at the entrance.

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Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

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