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Posted

Thanks for all the comments on the other thread. I decided to start a new thread since these pics are on the large size. Considering all the damage most of you sustained in the freeze, I shouldn't complain. But without that brutal winter things would certainly be nicer looking. First some more individual palm pics.

Cyphophoenix elegans, with R. hildebradtii and Burretiokentia koghiensis on right.

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Trunk close up

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Hedyscepe

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Ravenea glauca

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

More individual shots:

Ravenea sp. 'kingaly'

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Licuala ramsayi surprisingly untouched by the cold.

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Ceroxylon sp. 'big silver'

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Brahea nitida

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

Still more individual:

Clinostigma savoryanum

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Chambeyronia sp. 'houailou'

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Roystonea oleracea

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Livistona australias

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

And more.......you asked for it  :)

Freeze damaged Dypsis sp. 'OCWS', in coldest part of garden

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Close up --- OCWS

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

And some more general shots:

L to R --- D. onil, R. glauca, H. belmoreana, D. lanceolata

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L to R --- Hedyscepe, another OCWS, Ceroxylon sp. "6,000 ft," King, D.onil, in background Chambeyromia hookeri, R. glauca

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Another D. onil weeping form on left, Schizlobium trunk on right

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And another H. belmoreana, one of my favorite Calif. palms

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That's All Folks !!!

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

Dean,

Great looking palms! I'm curious about the OCWS - is that definitely different from the Big curly? (I recall we talked about this, but not sure what your conclusion was).

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Bo,

They are similar, but different, IMO, and in Darian's opinion, and Gary Le Vine's, as well. But this whole complex is going to be difficult to sort out.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

Dean

Great inspiration for the long-term gardener  :P

Howea is gorgeous.  What's the height of the belmoreana?

Forsteriana is my most impressive palm

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

Posted

Happ,

The H. belmores are about 8 ft. overall.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

Hedyscepe, Cyphophoenix, Ravenea, Chambeyronia, Dypsis, Burretiokentia, Howea: you've got great examples of all of my favourite palms, thanks so much for the pictures Dean.

The garden must be in a good microclimate, I see the Roystonea oleracea is hardly damaged while Dave's unfortunately received the full force of the freeze.  

Does the B. koghiensis throw red new fronds?  I've been looking for one for a while, and B. hapala is one of my best performers.

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted

Dean, I have to say that is an inspirational garden, I'd have a hard time picking my favorite.  The H belmoreana is very nice and the Hedyscepe is incredible.  How long has it been in the ground and what size was it when you planted it?  The Decipiens from the previous thread is HUGE and the R oleracea looks fabulous, should I go on.  

What is the D OCWS?  Thanks again for posting the pics, for a minute I thought I was in Hawaii

Don

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

Posted

Wow, that's CALIFORNIA?

If you'd said Hawaii, I'd have believed you.

Where is your garden?  You must be on top of a hill . . . .

dave

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Posted

Is that your st lucei in back of the Licuala? Thanks for the pictures since I missed a tour this trip.

San Marcos CA

Posted

OCWS stands for "Orange crownshaft, white stem" a named coined by Mardy Darian the purveyor.

Deans place is about 1/2 mile north of Jungle Music, in a valley as it were. It helps to be very close to the water. :D

Shon- good eye, right on!

(I aspire to be "Deans place tourguide" lots to still learn though. :cool: )

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Great looking garden. Specimens look amazing for your area. Do you use any kind of cold protection on your plants?

Posted

(BS, Man about Palms @ Jun. 16 2007,03:40)

QUOTE
OCWS stands for "Orange crownshaft, white stem" a named coined by Mardy Darian the purveyor.

Deans place is about 1/2 mile north of Jungle Music, in a valley as it were. It helps to be very close to the water. :D

Shon- good eye, right on!

(I aspire to be "Deans place tourguide" lots to still learn though. :cool: )

Thanks Bill, it looks like it's another large dypsis.  

If it's only 1/2 mile north of Jungle Musis, I'd love to check it out.  It may even convince my wife that we need more palms so I can achieve the jungle look, something that is getting harder and harder the more I plant.  :)  

On another note, how much sun can Dypsis orange crush take?

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

Posted

Great stuff Dean, very lush and green!

Randy

Chandler, Arizona

USDA Hardiness Zone 9b(Warming to 10a)

Lowest Temps (usually) in the upper 20's

(Freeze of '07 lowest temp was 18dF)

Highest temps (usually) in the triple digit teens

Posted

Ahhh - so nice having a 'puter that can show pix again!  Dean, your garden is beautiful - heavenly!  The clinostigma is a gem.  And the onil and glauca are to die for!

How cold did your OCWS get (doesn't look like much damage, btw, unless I'm missing something.)

Licuala ramsayi surprisingly untouched by the cold.
 Is it possible that ramsayi has some cold tolerance, like the spinosa?

BS Man, thanks for the explanation of OCWS.  I'd figured out the OC part but wasn't too about WS and kept forgetting to ask.

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

Posted

(SunnyFl @ Jun. 17 2007,06:10)

QUOTE
BS Man, thanks for the explanation of OCWS.  I'd figured out the OC part but wasn't too about WS and kept forgetting to ask.

By the way,   there are some people that think the OCWS is the old Dypsis lucabensis solitary form. If any one has photos to post or start another thread, that would be neat.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Dean,

      Like someone earlier made the comment, is this garden in Hawaii or Calif? Your garden looks very beautiful and lush. I noticed all of your palms look very healthy and well looked after. It certainly shows where your heart is, you should be proud!

Jeff

007

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

Dean,

Nice garden.  The Cyphophoenix is a personal favorite.  You are one of the few that escaped relatively unscathed.  

Ray

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

Posted

Well, Dean, I'm sorry I didn't get an opportunity to meet you while I was in SD last month.  However, you already have two great tour guides (Bill & Matt) as my friend and I were given the grand tour of your place!  I'm glad you've posted these photos as my pictures didn't turn out very well.  Your place is awesome.  I felt like I was in Hawaii...even the ocean was nearby!  

As for the tour guides, well, you need to make sure that Bill travels at all times with a set of spare car keys so the tours start on time!  :D    <Just kiddin', BS>

C from NC

:)

Bone dry summers, wet winters, 2-3 days ea. winter in low teens.

Siler City, NC

Posted

Well it looks like Dean is a real Plantsman. How old is your Royal?

What you look for is what is looking

Posted

Thanks everyone for the nice comments. So to answer some questions.

That Royal is about 10 years old I believe.

And yes, it appears to me the L. ramsayii is at least as hardy as many Dypsis. I mentioned before that this palm sat for 12 years in the ground in the shade, hardly growing at all. As soon as I cut the tree down that it was under, it started growing great. So at least for coastal California, it wants full sun.

The freeze was fickle. Most all the garden did very well, except for one area. And while this area was fairly open to the sky, so were other areas that fared just fine. I have been through enough freezes to realize that each one is different, and is different even over areas close to one another. That is why, IMO, cold hardiness data seems to vary so much at times. I wasn't in California during that event, so I can't say for sure what my temps were.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

Dear Dean  :)

that's a very beautiful garden,and very lush as all have pointed out.but i have a few questions as to why some of

my favouriate palms are missing ?

Bismarkia silver form,breha armeta,CIDP,Phoenix Sp_Date Palms,Jubea's,Butia's..Talipot palms,C.Utan,C.Locometii..

sabal palmetoo,sabal riverside,washy filifera or Washy Filibusta's..Triangles,Bottle palm..Med Fan Palm..texas sabal...

have you plans in future of planting these palms at least for my sake !  :D

hope to hear from you on those questions_Please !

Love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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Posted

Dean.....those are absolutely beautiful pictures. That hedyscape is quite a sight.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

Posted

Totally jealous, here, especially of the Clinostigma savoryanum.  Well, and the size of the R. glaucas.  And everything else!  I saw your garden on a cold, grey day, and it looked great even after the freeze; it would be fabulous to see it on a hot steamy summer day when everything is happy and growing full blast.  It's like you have a personal tropical bubble tucked away in non-tropical California.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

  • 6 months later...
Posted

Another bump I love Deans socal garden Im lucky to live only a mile away.

Encinitas on a hill 1.5 miles from the ocean.

Posted

(ellidro @ Dec. 21 2007,10:49)

QUOTE
Another bump I love Deans socal garden Im lucky to live only a mile away.

Well, were so glad your still happy.....

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

Happy that in another 10 years what our gardens can look like, ellidro mi amigo  :P  makes me wish that I planted more potted palms last summer [including  areca catechu/licuala peltara/calyptrooma rivalis/satakentia liukiuensis/caryota no/dictyosperma albun/etc but esp hyophorbe verschaffelitii  :P

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

Posted

Maybe we should put DypsisDean on our missing members list since he rarely posts anymore. Where are you Dean?

San Marcos CA

Posted

:) Hi Dean

Thanks for sharing those pictures,

Excellent man... Keep them coming.

Regards Mikey..

M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

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