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I've been really interested in palm evolution and classification lately. I just can't seem to find a complete phylogenetic tree for the Arecaceae family. Does anyone here have one or know where I can obtain one at? 

Zone 8a/8b Greenville, NC 

Zone 9a/9b Bluffton, SC

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    Genera Palmarum 2008 (aka GP2)?   Bit of a movable feast though...

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    Maybe these links could be helpful:

    https://academic.oup.com/aob/article/108/8/1417/159776

    http://palmweb.org/node/18

    http://palmweb.org/node/18?q=node/17

     

    My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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    Definitely agree on General Palmarum if you are serious about learning about palms. I have it and before I was diagnosed with failing vision I would have studied it intently like the learning geek I am. Even now, I'm thinking I should get it out and go back to reading it in magnified increments - would take the rest of my remaining life to do so. It's quite scientific.

    My go-to palm bible is the Riffle/Craft/Zona The Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms. It has easily understood basic info. The internet is handy but you can't beat a good book. You can't be serious about palms yet be unwilling to learn.

    Meg

    Palms of Victory I shall wear

    Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
    Florida
    Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
    Elevation: 15 feet

    I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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    Thanks everyone for your answers. I think I will have to invest in that book. Looks great

    Zone 8a/8b Greenville, NC 

    Zone 9a/9b Bluffton, SC

    26 minutes ago, NC_Palms said:

    Thanks everyone for your answers. I think I will have to invest in that book. Looks great

    The article in my first link has the most detailed information to your topic:

    978135606_academic_oup.comaobarticle10881417159776.thumb.jpg.bcdc48a775fc8266d0ce46d3d7af4daa.jpg

    My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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    1 hour ago, Pal Meir said:

    The article in my first link has the most detailed information to your topic:

    978135606_academic_oup.comaobarticle10881417159776.thumb.jpg.bcdc48a775fc8266d0ce46d3d7af4daa.jpg

    Thanks for sharing those links. I'll probably take some time tonight or tomorrow to read them all

    Zone 8a/8b Greenville, NC 

    Zone 9a/9b Bluffton, SC

    On 1/28/2019 at 11:53 PM, Pal Meir said:

    Maybe these links could be helpful:

    https://academic.oup.com/aob/article/108/8/1417/159776

    http://palmweb.org/node/18

    http://palmweb.org/node/18?q=node/17

     

    Very useful! Thanks @Pal Meir... just realised that Beccariophoenix are closely related to Butia, Jubaea, Syagrus etc... let's hope someone starts to try hybrids soon :yay:

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    In addition to the great links above, this is the most recent revision of the palm taxonomy - https://academic.oup.com/botlinnean/article/182/2/207/2707815 "Beyond Genera Palmarum: progress and prospects in palm systematics" 

    It already accounts, for example, for the elimination of Wallichia as a genus (now part of Arenga), that hasn't yet been updated on the Kew Checklist.

    There is also a project in progress that should resolve everything -  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27060018 "An all-evidence species-level supertree for the palms (Arecaceae)" 

     

     

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