What is your current yard temperature?

[Foxpalms]

@UK_Palms gfs going for 35c now on the Sunday. However it looks like  there's more heat next week. Next Friday is being shown as 35c then with high 20s or low 30s on sat, Sunday with 36c on Monday the 30th, and 37c on July the 1st. With 40c temps over northern France and with 25c 850hpa temps. To see that already makes me think July is likely going to be very hot.

[Foxpalms]

Certainly a somewhat credible threat to the June record high being broken, considering the amount of hot runs being shown the past few days. Gfs run is showing potentially 40c temps on June the 30th.

 

[UK_Palms]

3 hours ago, Foxpalms said:

Certainly a somewhat credible threat to the June record high being broken, considering the amount of hot runs being shown the past few days. Gfs run is showing potentially 40c temps on June the 30th.

 

This mornings deterministic GFS run reaches 40C on the hi-res grid on both the last day of June and the first day of July. That’s about the 20th chart showing 40C> now and we’re still in mid-June.

I’m seeing 43C modelled in the American ensemble pack. That won’t happen but seeing 40’s C modelled quite a lot in June already is concerning. Especially as it the US and Euro models.

Computer generated feedback suggests the ceiling here is now 46-47C potentially, if everything aligns. I think the ultimate max has jumped 5C in the past decade or so due to background warming and Hadley cell expansion. You do wonder whether this summer may get even hotter than 2022 at this rate. It’s hard to imagine almost 47C here in the UK. Not for a second saying anything like that will happen this summer, or anytime soon.

Anyway ARPEGE has 36C / 97F for Saturday…

 

Met Office keeping a conservative forecast, for now.

 

BBC for comparison…

 

The Euro / ECM hi-res is showing 33C / 92F as early as tomorrow (Thursday) though in London. The heat won’t peak until Sat/Sun. The main heat event probably isn’t until later this month either.

[JohnAndSancho]

Great day to try to dig up 20 years of overgrown Bermuda grass out of a flowerbed, John. Pure brilliance. 

[Foxpalms]

Min of 19c/66.2f with a high of 32.2c/90f with 28% humidity. UV was a 9. Almost no wind all day as well, though as the heat here is almost always a dry heat I would say it's a nice temperature. It is currently 21c at 11.30pm and has cooled down but was still very warm an hour ago at 25c. 

[Silas_Sancona]

A toasty ..and breezy 107F at 3:05PM  ..But at least it isn't 114 like yesterday...  Numerous brutal 120-122F readings around various neighborhoods on this side of town too..

Stronger than normal -for this time of year- trough sweeping into the western U.S.  from the Pac. N.W over the next few days = ..a very uncommon start to Astro. Summer.  ..and a somewhat welcomed break from the 110's here..   ..While the Eastern U.S. fries.. ..Or is it Saute' ....since you add in all that buttery humidity when it is hot back there.. 

Regardless,  101- 103 = reasonably hot here as we start down the final days of the month..  At the same time?






What would be our first, big surge of monsoon moisture, courtesy of what remnants are left of former Hurricane Erik  will get shunted into N.M. giving them a much needed early start to the rainy season.

While many of the Wx models keep most of that moisture solidly east of AZ, ..i won't be shocked is some of it bleeds west of the state line, esp. if it hangs around past Wednesday and the now dominant Southwesterly flow overhead from the passing trough starts to wane. 

How far west? ...just depends how quickly any lingering influence from the trough decides to hang around ...or leave which i'd prefer, lol.. and what kind of moisture is still sloshing around just south of the AZ / MEX. border at that time.. 

Turquoise line represents where most of the moisture is supposed to end up.. #1 and 2 represent where the highest rainfall totals may end up, depending on various outcome scenarios proposed by the WX models over the last few days.

Green line represents where some models have been suggesting the western edge of that moisture could seep west.. S.E. AZ, ..maybe as far west as Tucson, ..and the eastern mountains / end of the Rim..

Yellow line is an outlier  that a few models have teased  ..If the southwesterly flow over AZ isn't as dominant which might allow more moisture to spread further west into Cen. AZ.  ..At the worst?.. it would represent passing clouds we might see over the next few days..




Beyond the middle of next week, trough's influence dwindles and we start heating up again.. Is also when keeping an eye on the Dew Point starts.. 

While today's CPC 3 week still looks good,  Monthly update ( out yesterday ) yanked the " Above normal " lean to the rain potential for the region.. Not sure why, but,  ...makes you wonder / me a little nervous..



Graph below represents important averaged Dew Point threshold dates, and the averaged " Start Date ", ...using the 3 days -in a row- of 55/ 55+deg dew points " definition...

If D.P's are still solidly below 40deg by July 10th,  here and in Tucson,  ..that could be a bit concerning..


*** Red line represents 2021's Dew Point Readings ..**









For now, awaiting the best signal of the season ..the first sound of Citrus Cicadas..  Start hearing them at any point over the next 8 days, first shot at rain will be possible soon after.  Almost always how it ends up. 

If the suggested 3-4  year life cycle ( most of it being spent underground ) is correct,  the brood that emerges this year would have been laid in '21 or '22  ..the last two wet years here..  so it could be a big ..and really noisy.. year for dem' bugs..  We'll see what happens. 


As for this passing trough bringing everyone in the west a good cooldown? ( ..and possible wet snow in parts of MT ) Might be nice, but, when you have a lot of these, all summer long, it delays or flat out ruins our rainy season..  Ala: 2019, 2020, 2023 and 24...

As far as i'm concerned, between May 1st and October 1st,  if the Pac. N.W. is tempted to send any deg. of troughiness down this way,  it needs a rough flogging, repeated if necessary  ..to firmly instill the idea that such cool downs and monsoon season buzz kills won't be tolerated, ..until mid - october, lol.. 

[JohnAndSancho]

One of my favorite baseball players of all time was Jon Lester (pitched for Boston and the Cubs), and he had an expression for really hot says. He'd say it was a 2 t shirt day (from sweating through them)

 

It's a 2 t shirt day. I looked outside and heard thunder and saw dark clouds, so I headed back outside to do more yard stuff. It's literally zero percent cooler. 92 buf the heat index is 105. 

[UK_Palms]

Hot night in London tonight with temperatures of up to 27C / 80F at half past midnight…

That’s after a daytime maximum of 33C / 92F on Saturday.

Temperatures aren’t looking as hot now, but the dry summer theme remains…

[Foxpalms]

Min of 19c/66.2f with a high of 33.3c/92f with 33% humidity. There was cloud cover around midday until 4 or 5 in the afternoon which suppressed temps. Otherwise likely would have been 35c+. It's currently 80f/26.6c at 2.19am with 50% humidity a very warm night for June. The warm airmass is being pushed away by low pressure currently. Around 1am it was 27.5c/81.5f.  The pond surface temp reached 28.5c this afternoon and 25c at 2m depth. The sea temp near London is up to 19.3c and the water temp of the river Thames around Docklands is up to 22c.

[Silas_Sancona]

Astro. Summer day #3 and   ....Not bad at all for June 22nd.. Only 98F with a cool-ish breeze at times at 2:12PM.. 

Staying " decent " ..by late June standards, temp. - wise,  thru mid week    before temps start edging up as the influence from this latest trough weakens, heads east,  and the 4 corners high starts edging back to the west, from the east.. 

While we enjoy some ..not so hot weather this week,  decent, early season rains are still on tap for New Mexico where some areas ..Mountains esp.. could see upwards of 3 -5" by next weekend.. Not a bad way to usher in the rainy season..

While some moisture could still spread west of the AZ / N.M. state line by mid -week, if anyone sees spit / sprinkles ..or maybe something better, it will be the far east / southeastern portions of AZ..  We may see passing clouds from time to time..

As far as when things might start getting active on this side of the state line, much closer to the valley?   Fingers crossed but by the time July arrives, nature may cue it's own light show to any local firework / drone  displays on the 4th / weekend of...

...How things appear to be looking for now..

Hearing the first Cicada of the season last night around 8 while working on some stuff, = stormy / rainy relief within 8 - 12 days sounds about right..  Hopefully..

[Chester B]

We've been consistently within a degree of 90F/32C for a while now and enough rain to keep everything extremely muggy.  

[DTS]

Tropical-ass weather for the next week, its been in the mid 90's for a couple days too lol

[UK_Palms]

A few drops of rain this morning which was the first bit of precipitation in 2 weeks here. Barely enough to wet the surface.

Currently 24C / 76F at midday. Looking fairly warm for the rest of June with temps of 25-30C.

 

The grass is getting that ‘nuked’ look already here…

St James Park in London needs another 11.4mm of rainfall between now and month end to avoid falling under the Csb/warm-summer Med category again already after the first summer month (driest summer month has less than 30mm and less than 33% of wettest winter month).

 

The Met Station on the Isle of Wight needs another 15.8mm between now and month end. So it needs more rain in the next 7 days than it has recorded in the past 23 days to avoid falling under the Csb classification this year after the first summer month.

[Silas_Sancona]

A perfectly acceptable 100F at 1:40PM on your final hump day of the month.. ...Add maybe a deg or 3 by 5PM and that still isn't bad -at all- lol, for the end of June here in the low desert..

109+ heat returns for the weekend / last day of June before......




....Rains could really ramp up across the valley/ region / state  as July arrives..

While always optimistic when i see such thoughts in the 10 and 14 day forecasts, that " optimism " is always balanced with a dose of ..we'll see / this could change of course " reality..  No forecast is ever 100%, esp. these. 

That said, these are some of the best looking precip. anomaly thoughts i've seen hoisted for the start of July since 2021, so,  ..We'll see.. 









 Some -likely bullish- forecast model thoughts are already hinting at a noticeable ramping up of storm activity across the state by the latter half of the weekend, with -something- reaching the valley by the 1st..  ....while other current forecast thoughts keep any activity out of the local area until the 2nd or 3rd ..or possibly arriving on the 4th.. 



Regardless, today looks like it will be the " lowest Dew Point Readings " day (  Yellow circles ) across the state, before those #s start climbing, reaching the " 3 day " rule threshold start of the season right around the 1st or 2nd.. 







With the suggested uptick in rain chances / 50+ Dew Point readings, day time highs. will trend back to the " reasonably hot " category..  area -wide.

Looking  really  nice in Sonoita / Patagonia / mountains down there...






Looking further south?,  just for the heck of it?

Hot n' wet = Rainy season settling in across Western Mexico.. 

** Note that the Wx Und. station in Alamos itself appears to have been taken offline.  Regardless,  if the forecast is wet in Ciudad Obregon,  ...it is definitely wet in Alamos ** 










Maybe not as wet in Cabo/ nearby,  but w/ the clouds / passing showers at times, time at the beaches should be enjoyable / Sunsets spectacular.. Probably some showers / storms at times over the Sierra de la Laguna as well.

At least one potential tropical system may approach Baja Sur over the next 2 weeks as well..





While they might not be suggested in the current forecasts, don't think you're going to be totally shut out of the fun California, < S.Cal esp..... >  4corners ridge set up setting up as July arrives will be favorable for sending moisture west of AZ once it drops anchor and settles in. ...As things look right now at least.  You're in the zone on both the 10 and 14 day forecasts ..so,  Keep those fingers crossed.


For now, keeping my fingers crossed for the rare opportunity of capturing shots of both kinds of fireworks,  on the 4th..

...And some much appreciated  free  water 

[Than]

Our first heatwave here, not that strong, went up to 98 F / 37 C today. Humidity is quite low, perhaps 25%. Moderate wind.

My plants got their first hit since planted in the ground. One of them in particular, colocasia fallax doesn't seem like it can make it. It is in shade most of the time, I water it twice a day but still, the only good leaf, the newest one, turned grey and dry in just few hours. Oh well..

[UK_Palms]

Tropical night here last night with a low of 20.1C / 68F. It is currently 27.6C / 81F here at midday on Saturday.

Temperatures could be nudging 100F on Monday in London, potentially. Tuesday could also be equally as hot potentially.

 

Totally insufficient rainfall this month after the record dry spring. I managed to rack up 0.6mm off the weak system the other night but that isn’t going to put a dent in anything. This summer will qualify for Csb / warm-summer Med again in the southeast/east of England in 2-3 days time.

The station at Potton is only on 0.7mm / 0.027 inches for the month of June…

 

 

To the east of London, the station at Crossness is on 3.0mm / 0.11 inches for this month…

 

 

Fishbourne in Sussex is on 6.2mm / 0.24 inches…

 

I am going to finish the month on a slightly wetter 12.9mm / 0.51 inches here. Some sources put the driest summer month at less than 40mm / 1.4 inches for Csb / warm-summer Med (I go with the 30mm / 1.18 inches definition) which still means we will comfortably fall into that Csb category again. The same as 6 of the previous 8 summers. I expect August to be the driest summer month this year however.

Anyway, the current grass situation around here (before the next heat event even arrives for us)…

[Mazat]

currently 31.1 degrees Celsius / 87.98 degrees fahrenheit at 3.45 pm.

as the last 10 days mostly similar maximum tenperatures or above

☀️🌴🤗

[Than]

1 hour ago, Mazat said:

currently 31.1 degrees Celsius / 87.98 degrees fahrenheit at 3.45 pm.

as the last 10 days mostly similar maximum tenperatures or above

☀️🌴🤗

Ι bet it's humid there too. Plants must love it but I would hate it personally 

[Mazat]

1 hour ago, Than said:

Ι bet it's humid there too. Plants must love it but I would hate it personally 

Yes, exactly. yes they do.

my Iraqi neighbor told me exactly the same thing today.

he feels much better with the hot temperatures in northern Iraq with his parents. he sweats a lot here and the nights are also more pleasant at home.

i'm fine so far, but it's more pleasantly different.

Sabine is also doing better in your climate. it's like being in a botanical garden in a tropical house 😅

[Foxpalms]

Saturday: Min of 67.5f/19.7c with a high of 31.3c/88.3f with 43% humidity. The dew point peaked around 11am at 18.1c. It's currently 20c/68f at 5.32am. The average high for June at London Heathrow is up to 25c.

[Than]

13 hours ago, Mazat said:

Yes, exactly. yes they do.

my Iraqi neighbor told me exactly the same thing today.

he feels much better with the hot temperatures in northern Iraq with his parents. he sweats a lot here and the nights are also more pleasant at home.

i'm fine so far, but it's more pleasantly different.

Sabine is also doing better in your climate. it's like being in a botanical garden in a tropical house 😅

A friend just came back from Iraq (his holiday timing choices aren't great), and he told me that it was 45 C but the air was so dry that he didn't sweat and felt fine. I still find it hard to believe. 

[Mazat]

3 hours ago, Than said:

A friend just came back from Iraq (his holiday timing choices aren't great), and he told me that it was 45 C but the air was so dry that he didn't sweat and felt fine. I still find it hard to believe. 

interesting, they both feel the same.

for me, it is also astonishing and not easy to understand.

my neighbor is a good runner, but he had a lot of trouble here and after half an hour he was soaking wet and completely exhausted the last time he told me

he has a lot of stamina, we've played basketball at around 30 degrees Celsius in the evening and he had no trouble...

by the way

[Mazat]

today max 37.1 degrees celsius / 98.78 degrees fahrenheit in community garden weatherstation ventilated and with light wind 3 km/h, air humidity 47 %

[Silas_Sancona]

12 hours ago, Than said:

A friend just came back from Iraq (his holiday timing choices aren't great), and he told me that it was 45 C but the air was so dry that he didn't sweat and felt fine. I still find it hard to believe. 

All depends on the person  ..and the humidity at the time.. 

Dry heat is a double - edged sword... While it is true that dry air will feel ..drier,  ...even when it is 110+,   your body ( ..and everything else ) is loosing a greater %'age of moisture than if it is humid  so,  any heat related issues can sneak up on you much faster / effects can be magnified.   Having lived in both extremes, ask me how i know, lol..

Drier air is good in the sense that it will tend to cool faster once the sun sets. 

OTOH, while humid air may feel hot, esp. hanging out in full sun,  it is much harder to heat moisture filled air to the same air temp ( 110 for example ) as dry air..  That extra humidity in the air also helps protect plants from drying out  as quickly as they can in a drier area / experiencing sun burn - related issues.

Because of that extra moisture, where it is humid, sweating may not be effective at keeping a body cool, though if sitting in shade, it can feel pretty good..

  There, staying hydrated often works reasonably well.   Here, not so much..  You could drink a 10.5 oz bottle of ice cold water an hour and it may not be enough to stay out of trouble..    Again though, that aspect will depend on individual tolerance to either end of the heat tolerance spectrum..
 

[JohnAndSancho]

All day, the forecast said rain rain rain then no rain! No rain for a week! So I watered the plants and trees and stuff.

 

Welp it's been raining pretty good for the last 2 hours. Gotta love the unpredictability when it's all hot and steamy. 

 

[Silas_Sancona]

100F at 10:59PM with that classic, open oven door breeze...   Tomorrow looks ...Brutal...  116F here,  117 ..maybe higher.. in Phoenix..


But,  relief from this latest heat burst is on the way..  Already some clouds trying to make their way west  into the lower deserts from the AZ / N.M. state line as the upper level flow tries to turn east south easterly.. Helped in part by a dry cut off low trying to set up just off N. Baja.. 

South / southeasterly flow between the two should finally get some moisture into the region starting  ..possibly tomorrow night in the form of an outflow boundary from storms that are currently forecast to form over the mountains east of the valley, that might bring our first monsoon season - generated dust event  ..and a noticeable bump in Dew point readings..

Right now? Wednesday and Thursday look to offer the best potential for some storms / rainfall for the valley but ..Tuesday can't be counted out, if storm activity in the mountains is more widespread  and aggressive than is currently suggested in most forecast thoughts..

Storms on the 4th, locally?? ..We'll see.. Same cut off low may scour out moisture by then, ..or not ( hopefully )

Current 10 day from WX U looks pretty bleak compared to Time and Date's forecast / a few others..





Both Tucson and Sonoita / areas nearby down there may escape any significant, yet temporary scouring away of moisture for storms after the 4th..







Overall 4th of July weekend is a bit of a toss up atm.. Lingering Southwesterly flow from the passing trough associated w/ the passing cut off low may cut off moisture influx from Mexico / New Mexico for a couple days -locally at least ..or,  maybe it doesn't..

Temps pull back to a more reasonable level across the board, so watching Fireworks / drone shows should be tolerable.. 

As usual, Sonoita ..and the mountain retreats north and / or east of the valley look great..



Regardless, tomorrow afternoon looks to be the lowest Dew Point reading going forward < Yellow >

Highest D.P's < Sea Green = above 60 deg. > = on the 3rd, and spiking again later..

If it holds, Purple line represents when the first day of Dew Point readings reaching / exceeding 54 deg. should occur.. If that holds, and readings on both the 2nd and 3rd exceed 55deg, ...as it looks like they should currently,   then the 1st may represent when Monsoon 2025 kicks off -using the " 3 day " rule. 

Looking at the last 4 dates when the season kicked off on July 1, < 1949, 61, 70, and 1974, >  3 of the 4 were above avrg. in both Tucson and Phoenix, with one being above Avrg. in ABQ.  ..Other 3 came in close to avrg.. there. 

...About time to start the show 

[Than]

15 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

All depends on the person  ..and the humidity at the time.. 

Dry heat is a double - edged sword... While it is true that dry air will feel ..drier,  ...even when it is 110+,   your body ( ..and everything else ) is loosing a greater %'age of moisture than if it is humid  so,  any heat related issues can sneak up on you much faster / effects can be magnified.   Having lived in both extremes, ask me how i know, lol..

Drier air is good in the sense that it will tend to cool faster once the sun sets. 

OTOH, while humid air may feel hot, esp. hanging out in full sun,  it is much harder to heat moisture filled air to the same air temp ( 110 for example ) as dry air..  That extra humidity in the air also helps protect plants from drying out  as quickly as they can in a drier area / experiencing sun burn - related issues.

Because of that extra moisture, where it is humid, sweating may not be effective at keeping a body cool, though if sitting in shade, it can feel pretty good..

  There, staying hydrated often works reasonably well.   Here, not so much..  You could drink a 10.5 oz bottle of ice cold water an hour and it may not be enough to stay out of trouble..    Again though, that aspect will depend on individual tolerance to either end of the heat tolerance spectrum..
 

Great explanation. I have also lived in both extremes, Greece and Indonesia. I am not sure which one I prefer tbh. But yeah, I know which one my plants would prefer... 

[Mazat]

19 hours ago, Mazat said:

today max 37.1 degrees celsius / 98.78 degrees fahrenheit in community garden weatherstation ventilated and with light wind 3 km/h, air humidity 47 %

Out of curiosity, I consulted with a neighbor who lives 400m away and yesterday had a maximum temperature of 

35.7 degrees Celsius / 96.26 degrees Fahrenheit maximum temperature with his ventilated Davis Vantage pro 2, but he has a small stream nearby. From this point of view, this is the warmest temperature so far this summer. My second smaller station in the permanent shade measured 35.6 degrees Celsius / 96.08 degrees Fahrenheit max yesterday.

he (Andrea) just laughed and said he must have needed 7 tons of shirts yesterday alone. He is also originally from southern Italy and his wife is from southern Switzerland 😁

 

[Mazat]

3 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

100F at 10:59PM with that classic, open oven door breeze...   Tomorrow looks ...Brutal...  116F here,  117 ..maybe higher.. in Phoenix..


But,  relief from this latest heat burst is on the way..  Already some clouds trying to make their way west  into the lower deserts from the AZ / N.M. state line as the upper level flow tries to turn east south easterly.. Helped in part by a dry cut off low trying to set up just off N. Baja.. 

South / southeasterly flow between the two should finally get some moisture into the region starting  ..possibly tomorrow night in the form of an outflow boundary from storms that are currently forecast to form over the mountains east of the valley, that might bring our first monsoon season - generated dust event  ..and a noticeable bump in Dew point readings..

Right now? Wednesday and Thursday look to offer the best potential for some storms / rainfall for the valley but ..Tuesday can't be counted out, if storm activity in the mountains is more widespread  and aggressive than is currently suggested in most forecast thoughts..

Storms on the 4th, locally?? ..We'll see.. Same cut off low may scour out moisture by then, ..or not ( hopefully )

Current 10 day from WX U looks pretty bleak compared to Time and Date's forecast / a few others..





Both Tucson and Sonoita / areas nearby down there may escape any significant, yet temporary scouring away of moisture for storms after the 4th..







Overall 4th of July weekend is a bit of a toss up atm.. Lingering Southwesterly flow from the passing trough associated w/ the passing cut off low may cut off moisture influx from Mexico / New Mexico for a couple days -locally at least ..or,  maybe it doesn't..

Temps pull back to a more reasonable level across the board, so watching Fireworks / drone shows should be tolerable.. 

As usual, Sonoita ..and the mountain retreats north and / or east of the valley look great..



Regardless, tomorrow afternoon looks to be the lowest Dew Point reading going forward < Yellow >

Highest D.P's < Sea Green = above 60 deg. > = on the 3rd, and spiking again later..

If it holds, Purple line represents when the first day of Dew Point readings reaching / exceeding 54 deg. should occur.. If that holds, and readings on both the 2nd and 3rd exceed 55deg, ...as it looks like they should currently,   then the 1st may represent when Monsoon 2025 kicks off -using the " 3 day " rule. 

Looking at the last 4 dates when the season kicked off on July 1, < 1949, 61, 70, and 1974, >  3 of the 4 were above avrg. in both Tucson and Phoenix, with one being above Avrg. in ABQ.  ..Other 3 came in close to avrg.. there. 

...About time to start the show 

those are really hot temperatures, Nathan.

Not sure if it reaches 40 degrees Celsius / 100 degrees Fahrenheit here 🤔

 

[Mazat]

13 minutes ago, Than said:

Great explanation. I have also lived in both extremes, Greece and Indonesia. I am not sure which one I prefer tbh. But yeah, I know which one my plants would prefer... 

that's very interesting, Than.

have you been in Indonesia for longer?

A friend of mine ran a small hotel in Bali for over 7 years.

however, she sold it afterwards and lives as and someone reported with her girlfriend

no longer in Bali but in Tenerife and they are happy 🤗

[Mazat]

15 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

All depends on the person  ..and the humidity at the time.. 

Dry heat is a double - edged sword... While it is true that dry air will feel ..drier,  ...even when it is 110+,   your body ( ..and everything else ) is loosing a greater %'age of moisture than if it is humid  so,  any heat related issues can sneak up on you much faster / effects can be magnified.   Having lived in both extremes, ask me how i know, lol..

Drier air is good in the sense that it will tend to cool faster once the sun sets. 

OTOH, while humid air may feel hot, esp. hanging out in full sun,  it is much harder to heat moisture filled air to the same air temp ( 110 for example ) as dry air..  That extra humidity in the air also helps protect plants from drying out  as quickly as they can in a drier area / experiencing sun burn - related issues.

Because of that extra moisture, where it is humid, sweating may not be effective at keeping a body cool, though if sitting in shade, it can feel pretty good..

  There, staying hydrated often works reasonably well.   Here, not so much..  You could drink a 10.5 oz bottle of ice cold water an hour and it may not be enough to stay out of trouble..    Again though, that aspect will depend on individual tolerance to either end of the heat tolerance spectrum..
 

yes, Nathan 

 

excellent detailed explanation, I completely agree with Than 👍🤗

[Than]

5 minutes ago, Mazat said:

that's very interesting, Than.

have you been in Indonesia for longer?

A friend of mine ran a small hotel in Bali for over 7 years.

however, she sold it afterwards and lives as and someone reported with her girlfriend

no longer in Bali but in Tenerife and they are happy 🤗

We are off topic I guess, but yeah, I spent 6 years in Indonesia, 3 in Java and 3 in Bali. Studied at uni for 1 year and then worked as a teacher for the remaining 5. That's where I met my partner who is Javanese.

[Mazat]

25 minutes ago, Than said:

We are off topic I guess, but yeah, I spent 6 years in Indonesia, 3 in Java and 3 in Bali. Studied at uni for 1 year and then worked as a teacher for the remaining 5. That's where I met my partner who is Javanese.

yes, that's right.

one of my strengths (or weaknesses ?)

to deviate from a theme 🤔

great what wonderful things can happen in life

[Silas_Sancona]

9 hours ago, Than said:

Great explanation. I have also lived in both extremes, Greece and Indonesia. I am not sure which one I prefer tbh. But yeah, I know which one my plants would prefer... 

Me myself? ...Somewhere with a mild / warm winter, hot and wet summer would be my ultimate pick over anything drier / hotter than here,  and / or some place where winters are colder than upper zone 9B.... Baja Sur, town like Todo Santos on the Pacific side esp,  and / or various locations between Hermosillo and Puerto Vallarta along the western coast of Mexico. Guadalajara wouldn't be bad either. 

States- side? Southern CA., Slightly inland from the coast is the only other place i'd live that i haven't already lived in back in CA...

Anywhere in FL ( again ) / TX / anywhere back east / north of Central California, or this part of AZ?..  Nope. 

Puerto Rico and Hawaii would be ok,  if they were closer,  and bigger islands, lol..

Dating someone and she were serious when suggesting, " lets move Mexico ",  ..Baja Sur or Puerto Vallarta esp? ..I wouldn't hesitate to start packing..

Me in Mexico?  = kid in the biggest Pizza place anywhere  ..on any planet..
 

As far as plants?.. Tall trees, that can withstand the kind of heat / dryness you might experience  will provide an ideal environment for wider / thinner leaved / much more sun sensitive things to grow under.. Is how folks here can grow such things.. 

Those kinds of plants plopped into full sun?  yeah, they're gonna burn. No way around that. 

 

9 hours ago, Mazat said:

those are really hot temperatures, Nathan.

Not sure if it reaches 40 degrees Celsius / 100 degrees Fahrenheit here 🤔

 

You should be able to check via archived, historical Wx data, if that is available for your location or somewhere close by.. 

I'd think 100 / 100+ might be tougher at your latitude though w/ lots of tall mountains nearby ( from what the terrain looks like on Google Earth ), imagine you could experience a 100 deg day or two under very favorable  Foehn - type setups since air tends to warm and dry out as it descends down a mountain.

Depending on which way the wind is blowing during one of those events, any localized cooling effect the lake might provide on say your side of it might be canceled out, temporarily at least, until the prevailing wind settles down and any breeze from the lake can resume. 

..Different regional names, but is the same kind of weather pattern that can bring 100 / 110+ type heat to areas of California that are often 12-20F cooler on a typical day throughout the year, Summer and Fall esp.. 

[Mazat]

33 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Me myself? ...Somewhere with a mild / warm winter, hot and wet summer would be my ultimate pick over anything drier / hotter than here,  and / or some place where winters are colder than upper zone 9B.... Baja Sur, town like Todo Santos on the Pacific side esp,  and / or various locations between Hermosillo and Puerto Vallarta along the western coast of Mexico. Guadalajara wouldn't be bad either. 

States- side? Southern CA., Slightly inland from the coast is the only other place i'd live that i haven't already lived in back in CA...

Anywhere in FL ( again ) / TX / anywhere back east / north of Central California, or this part of AZ?..  Nope. 

Puerto Rico and Hawaii would be ok,  if they were closer,  and bigger islands, lol..

Dating someone and she were serious when suggesting, " lets move Mexico ",  ..Baja Sur or Puerto Vallarta esp? ..I wouldn't hesitate to start packing..
 

As far as plants?.. Tall trees, that can withstand the kind of heat / dryness you might experience  will provide an ideal environment for wider / thinner leaved / much more sun sensitive things to grow under.. Is how folks here can grow such things.. 

Those kinds of plants plopped into full sun?  yeah, they're gonna burn. No way around that. 

 

You should be able to check via archived, historical Wx data, if that is available for your location or somewhere close by.. 

I'd think 100 / 100+ might be tougher at your latitude though w/ lots of tall mountains nearby ( from what the terrain looks like on Google Earth ), imagine you could experience a 100 deg day or two under very favorable  Foehn - type setups since air tends to warm and dry out as it descends down a mountain.

Depending on which way the wind is blowing during one of those events, any localized cooling effect the lake might provide on say your side of it might be canceled out, temporarily at least, until the prevailing wind settles down and any breeze from the lake can resume. 

..Different regional names, but is the same kind of weather pattern that can bring 100 / 110+ type heat to areas of California that are often 12-20F cooler on a typical day throughout the year, Summer and Fall esp.. 

yes i will do that. 

a few years ago it was at lake walen Quinten, Kublihaus, 8878 Quarten, Switzerland
Latitude : 47.129559 | Longitude : 9.210814

on a summer day in july 39.4 degrees celsius/102.92 degrees fahrenheit.

the davis vantage pro 2 weather station is very close to a small forest. we know the owner.

it is not the warmest place where this station was placed, in the center of quinten itself it is usually 1-2 degrees celsius warmer. so it was most likely the case there, which in principle was and is sensational.

the value was not recognized by the state weather service, respectively the private weather company that operates many similar stations in europe said that the station was defective. we were there at the time and saw the station and it worked perfectly, but quinten is a secret tip and not as well known as Zurich, Basel and other cities in switzerland ...

grotesque, it gets very warm there by swiss standards.

it also has a large number of snakes, various species of lizards, silk trees (silk is produced), palm trees, lemon trees, almond trees, persimmon trees, kiwi plants, grapevines and the winters are very mild compared to the surrounding area as in southern ticino.
various species of spiders, some of which are native to the mediterranean region, crickets, cicada species.
i didn't want to advertise, as i don't own a hotel or restaurant there, but i've known it since i was a little boy and it's great for nature lovers and can only be reached on foot or by boat ferry.

 

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, Mazat said:

the value was not recognized by the state weather service, respectively the private weather company that operates many similar stations in europe said that the station was defective. we were there at the time and saw the station and it worked perfectly, but quinten is a secret tip and not as well known as Zurich, Basel and other cities in switzerland ...

grotesque, it gets very warm there by swiss standards.

Similar thing here.. " official " temperature readings only come from weather stations our weather service uses..  

While they can be accurate, accuracy is only good for that specific location.. 

Where the main official Wx station is located in Phoenix for example, it can be 2 - 4degs warmer ..or cooler.. than a mile or two away, let alone in my own neighborhood 15 miles away..  Most offical weather stations are located at airports.. I don't live on ...or next to an airport. 

Even the closest regional WX stations the weather service uses,  5 - 8 miles away, readings from them can read differently than a neighborhood Wx station a block or two away from the house.. 

Is why i use the neighborhood readings for hot hot or cold it actually got, let alone any rainfall received.

Official station in Phoenix, 15 miles away,  might see sprinkles that add up to nothing,  while my neighborhood sees 2" of rain fall from a single storm.

Which data will i trust the most? ..One that says " we saw nothing ",  ..or the soaking i'm enjoying watch drench everything outside in the back yard?  



....You'd have to be extremely brain dead to trust the " we got nothing " data from the " official "  wx station 8 or 15 miles away when water is pouring off your roof at the same time. 

[sandgroper]

A rainy winters day here in Perth heading for a top of 22c.

[UK_Palms]

One of the worst nights I can remember last night. An extremely hot night for sleeping and it was still 26C / 78F at 1am in central London. ‘Official’ minimum of 22.2C / 72F at Heathrow last night.

 

31C / 88F in my bedroom when I went to sleep last night and it was still 29C / 84F in my bedroom at 8am when I woke up. All windows open and a bedside fan going all night but still woke up in a puddle of sweat this morning. And I have no UHI here like they would have in cities, hence my outdoor minimum dipping to 19C / 66F.

Car said 28C / 82F on way into work at 8:45am this morning. I’m expecting 35C / 95F here later. Currently 32C / 90F at 1pm.

 

Grass it obliterated here now…

Horrendous fires in places, including the Scottish Highlands. Helicopters whizzing all over the place trying to put the fires out.

 

I need to update the UK summer thread later…

[SeanK]

11 hours ago, sandgroper said:

A rainy winters day here in Perth heading for a top of 22c.

Pretty nice start for July.

[Foxpalms]

@UK_Palms Minimum here was 24.2c/75.6f last night. The high was 34.4c/94f with 32% humidity. Partial cloud cover has suppressed the temps here in London this afternoon.

Even with ac in the house the upstairs is up to 27c.

June was the warmest on record across the uk. The average high at London Heathrow was 25.6c/78f with 225 hours of sunshine.  The average minimum for June was close to 16c at 60.8f on my weather station.

It's going to cool down for the rest of early July with signs of more heat going into mid July. Having to water the garden daily at the moment. The grass in London is all brown with dusty bone dry earth.