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Show us your Lisa

Alicehunter2000

By Alicehunter2000
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Alicehunter2000 Grand Master

Alicehunter2000

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Slow but cool leaves in morning sun.

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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Looks good. Here are mine
 

Large in 2018

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Medium, 2017

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Small, 2018

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Alicehunter2000 Grand Master

Alicehunter2000

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Nice...that's not the same palm..right?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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3 different palms. First from Rusty on Pine Island. Nos. 2 & 3 I germinated from wild-collected seeds a year or two apart.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

TexasColdHardyPalms Grand Master

TexasColdHardyPalms

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Grown with @PalmatierMeg seed.

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Josue Diaz Grand Master

Josue Diaz

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Not much to look at, but here are 1 year old seedlings from @PalmatierMeg seed. 

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gilles06 Experienced

gilles06

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What is the percentage of real lisa grown from seeds?

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elevation 328 feet

distance from mediteranean sea 1,1 mile

lowest t° 2009/2010 : 27F

lowest t° 2008/2009 : 33F

lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F

lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F

lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F

lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F

Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F

Phoenikakias Grand Master

Phoenikakias

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  On 9/7/2018 at 10:26 PM, Josue Diaz said:

Not much to look at, but here are 1 year old seedlings from @PalmatierMeg seed. 

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I conclude from several pictures, that if leaves of a lisa offspring turn from strap to bifid ones early in their lives, then they are not going to inherit the lisa feature.

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Brad Mondel Grand Master

Brad Mondel

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3 years from seed: 20180908_103046.thumb.jpg.4888b88334c6da

I have 14 of them. 

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Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

Zeeth Grand Master

Zeeth

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  On 9/9/2018 at 7:55 PM, Brad Mondel said:

3 years from seed: 20180908_103046.thumb.jpg.4888b88334c6da

I have 14 of them. 

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Kind of excited to see these planted in South Carolina. I don't know of any S. lisa in the state, despite S. palmetto being the state tree.

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Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Brad Mondel Grand Master

Brad Mondel

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Me too Zeeth! Hopefully I can get some of these in the ground next year and donate a few to botanical gardens when they're larger. 

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Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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  On 9/8/2018 at 6:31 AM, gilles06 said:

What is the percentage of real lisa grown from seeds?

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Some sources claim 20% of seeds will yield Lisa offspring. I personally had nearly 70% of seeds I collected from the wild in 2008 come up Lisa. I think % can vary from palm to palm and harvest to harvest.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

willo68 Enthusiast

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I got one 2 years ago now September and planted it out last February. When i got it it was in a 5 gallon and had

about 5 or 6 leaves, as soon as i planted it out it gave me 4 new leaves. Went on vacation in April for a week and

when i got back the 4 new leaves were fried and then they pulled off. Treated with hydrogen peroxide and after

a while it stopped fizzing. Now its been almost a year and a half and Still has 4 leaves but not a inkling of

growth. Anyone had this happen before with any palm? Is there hope for it? Is it dead and doesnt know it?

Have a Livistona Saribus fry at the same time but i got a couple leaves from it.

Thanks for any input

Will   

Missi Grand Master

Missi

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I need one, but I'm afraid to purchase a seedling for fear it won't turn out to be Lisa!

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Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

Phoenikakias Grand Master

Phoenikakias

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  On 9/10/2018 at 4:57 AM, willo68 said:

I got one 2 years ago now September and planted it out last February. When i got it it was in a 5 gallon and had

about 5 or 6 leaves, as soon as i planted it out it gave me 4 new leaves. Went on vacation in April for a week and

when i got back the 4 new leaves were fried and then they pulled off. Treated with hydrogen peroxide and after

a while it stopped fizzing. Now its been almost a year and a half and Still has 4 leaves but not a inkling of

growth. Anyone had this happen before with any palm? Is there hope for it? Is it dead and doesnt know it?

Have a Livistona Saribus fry at the same time but i got a couple leaves from it.

Thanks for any input

Will   

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I doubt it will ever regenerate. Unlike other palm spp, I have discovered the hard way that this genus has a very sensitive meristem when it comes to its damage by other reasons than cold.

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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  On 9/17/2018 at 1:56 PM, Missi said:

I need one, but I'm afraid to purchase a seedling for fear it won't turn out to be Lisa!

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Get 15, grow them up, then guerrilla plant the non-Lisas. Three- to five-year-old Sabal Lisas are hard to find and very price-y.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

willo68 Enthusiast

willo68

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Thanks for the reality check Konstantinos. I have palmetos growing everywhere in my yard that im constantly pulling out and digging up and cutting out that keep coming back from under ground so i had hope that this one would be kinda bullet proof since its pretty much the same plant. Guess ill leave it sitting there till nature finally takes its course.

Phoenikakias Grand Master

Phoenikakias

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  On 9/18/2018 at 10:55 PM, willo68 said:

Thanks for the reality check Konstantinos. I have palmetos growing everywhere in my yard that im constantly pulling out and digging up and cutting out that keep coming back from under ground so i had hope that this one would be kinda bullet proof since its pretty much the same plant. Guess ill leave it sitting there till nature finally takes its course.

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It's just that meristem of seedlings remains still buried quite deeply below soil surface (of the in situ sprouted ones that is) and therefore you just pull out leaves and not the meristem itself. I have identical problem with naturally sprouted Washingtonia robusta seedlings. But that very same feature becomes fatal, when it comes to bud rot. No aeration, no surgery, no ability to be kept bud dry after treatment with H2O2 or fungicides.

mike-coral gables Proficient

mike-coral gables

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Mine is about 5 years old , starting to speed up now 

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Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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Last I bought S. Lisa seedling and I selected a plant with the most unusual "bloated" leaflets. I'm confident it's the real thing. Fingers crossed....

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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  On 9/23/2018 at 4:07 PM, Alberto said:

Last I bought S. Lisa seedling and I selected a plant with the most unusual "bloated" leaflets. I'm confident it's the real thing. Fingers crossed....

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Alberto, I think it is the real deal. I see the leaf at the back has "rolled up" almost to a cylinder. That is a signature look of Sabal Lisa.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Brad Mondel Grand Master

Brad Mondel

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Starting to bifurcate. 20180923_170026.thumb.jpg.a2a1360ac1178e

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Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

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Steve in Florida Rising Star

Steve in Florida

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Here is my largest Sabal 'Lisa'.

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Missi Grand Master

Missi

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  On 10/3/2018 at 9:02 AM, Steve in Florida said:

Here is my largest Sabal 'Lisa'.

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:drool::wub: What a beauty!

Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

caixeta Veteran

caixeta

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My seedlings if Sabal 'Lisa', of seeds sent by Meg , at 2,5 yea5bb4f06ae8d08_SabalLisa005.thumb.JPG.4085bb4f07fde77d_SabalLisa013.thumb.JPG.99brs of age ,what is the problabe percentageof 'Lisa' ?

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Caixeta

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caixeta

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Details.Which ones do you think are 'Lisas'?5bb4f12d3ea7d_SabalLisa006.thumb.JPG.1105bb4f13cbe12d_SabalLisa007.thumb.JPG.1ab5bb4f156a2617_SabalLisa009.thumb.JPG.4f65bb4f1627b584_SabalLisa010.thumb.JPG.1125bb4f16e8d7eb_SabalLisa011.thumb.JPG.fba5bb4f179d46ce_SabalLisa012.thumb.JPG.8f65bb4f1881cdfa_SabalLisa014.thumb.JPG.3545bb4f14c33e4b_SabalLisa008.thumb.JPG.964

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Caixeta

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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  On 10/3/2018 at 9:02 AM, Steve in Florida said:

Here is my largest Sabal 'Lisa'.

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  On 9/9/2018 at 8:19 PM, Zeeth said:

Kind of excited to see these planted in South Carolina. I don't know of any S. lisa in the state, despite S. palmetto being the state tree.

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  On 10/3/2018 at 9:02 AM, Steve in Florida said:

Here is my largest Sabal 'Lisa'.

IMG_6170.JPG

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  On 10/3/2018 at 9:02 AM, Steve in Florida said:

Here is my largest Sabal 'Lisa'.

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WOW!!!!!

 

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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