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Is this correct regarding aphids?

GottmitAlex

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Video demonstrating how aphids are indicators of a problem, however not the source of the problem. I always thought the ants were the problem....

https://youtu.be/sGlqnkE1Id0

 

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LJG Grand Master

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I didn't watch the video (it's 13 minutes long and my ADHD allows for 5) but I did read the intro paragraph to the video. In plants, if too much Nitrogen is used, it causes unnatural growth. That leads to elongated cell walls that are thin. This makes for an easy target for piercing-sucking insects. Aphids also attack weak plants (water-stressed, shade-stressed, sun-stressed, etc) as well. So I agree aphids are great indicators of how you are doing growing a plant. Ants simply compound the problem because they are excellent farmers and shepherds protecting the flock. Natural predators can't do their magic if ants are present. 

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

GottmitAlex Grand Master

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Thank you for your insight. I can't help thinking about the ADHD. I've never heard of it before. I just googled it. I take it black and white movies are out of the question (Jayne Eyre and The Ghost and Mrs. Muir come to mind) . As well as certain modern documentaries?  LoL. I seem to be a tad bit more interested in ADHD than I am in aphids and Nitrogen....I'm usually getting sidetracked. RE: Aphids. In my particular case, they are present in some of my potted palms (i.e R. hildebrandtii), however not in any of my planted palms(C.nucifera/B.Alfredii).  Overfertilizing?

 

 

 

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Tyrone Grand Master

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I've never known aphids to affect any palm. My cabbages, that's different.

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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19 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Thank you for your insight. I can't help thinking about the ADHD. I've never heard of it before. I just googled it. I take it black and white movies are out of the question (Jayne Eyre and The Ghost and Mrs. Muir come to mind) . As well as certain modern documentaries?  LoL. I seem to be a tad bit more interested in ADHD than I am in aphids and Nitrogen....I'm usually getting sidetracked. RE: Aphids. In my particular case, they are present in some of my potted palms (i.e R. hildebrandtii), however not in any of my planted palms(C.nucifera/B.Alfredii).  Overfertilizing?

 

 

 

It was mostly tongue in cheek about my adhd. I would watch the video if I had more time :)

Might not be too much fertilizer related. Could be the plant in the pot is under stress which makes them more susceptible to insect and fungal attacks. 

Tyrone, Aphids like to attack newly-emerging spears here in SoCal. 

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

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"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Pretty much the same thing applies to scale. Thankfully, as a group, I haven't found palms to be too susceptible to scale or aphids, though I do get some here and there. Once in a great while I might have to treat pot plant soil for ant nests. Once the ants are gone the aphids are a feast for ladybugs, and all manner of other mini-monsters.

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Never knew aphids were a problem for palms at any stage. I worked in a palm nursery for a while and of course have been growing my own for years with zero aphid activity. Scale and mealy bugs on the other hand are a different story. You learn something every day.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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7 hours ago, LJG said:

It was mostly tongue in cheek about my adhd. I would watch the video if I had more time :)

Might not be too much fertilizer related. Could be the plant in the pot is under stress which makes them more susceptible to insect and fungal attacks. 

Tyrone, Aphids like to attack newly-emerging spears her in SoCal. 

Len speaks the truth

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Palm Tree Jim Grand Master

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51 minutes ago, Hammer said:

Len speaks the truth

Who’s this Len character?

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GottmitAlex Grand Master

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15 minutes ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Who’s this Len character?

LGJ.

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1 hour ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Who’s this Len character?

:floor:

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3 hours ago, Tyrone said:

Never knew aphids were a problem for palms at any stage. I worked in a palm nursery for a while and of course have been growing my own for years with zero aphid activity. Scale and mealy bugs on the other hand are a different story. You learn something every day.

Throw in spider mites too. 

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

LJG Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Who’s this Len character?

Bet he is handsome. 

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Hammer Grand Master

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4 hours ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Who’s this Len character?

Some random guy.  Thinks he knows something about palms.  I've seen pictures of his place. All queens and washies.  Pretty sad.

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9 hours ago, LJG said:

Bet he is handsome. 

I've heard he has his scale, aphids and spider mites under control.... I can say nothing about his appearance other than that. :floor:

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Just wondering...Does anyone here also wakes up every morning and go pee outside next to a lemon tree?

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