Syagrus Coronata x Syagrus Romanzoffianum

[5150cycad]

Anyone growing syagrus coronata x syagrus romanzoffianum? The only thing that looked queen like was the trunk. Very beautiful palm in my opinion and very different looking than a lot of the other syagrus hybrids. Would like to what they look like when they start putting on some trunk. Please share pictures. Thanks 

[Stevetoad]

That’s a good looking cross

[5150cycad]

14 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

That’s a good looking cross

Thanks Steve. They were very reasonably prices too. Picked this one up for $125. They also had coconut queens and some other syagrus hybrids for the same price. 15 gallons, no matter what the size were all priced at $125. Here is a picture of one of the larger syagrus coronata x syagrus romanzoffianum he had for sale. Doesn’t show the same characteristics of the one I bought because mine was grown in full sun. The larger one was competing for sun and was stretched out a bit. (Over 12 feet planted height). Wish I had brought my trailer. Might have to make another trip up there to buy some more. The other picture is the one I planted in my yard. So nobody has any large trunking ones?? Would love to see some pictures. 

[Stevetoad]

3 hours ago, 5150cycad said:

Thanks Steve. They were very reasonably prices too. Picked this one up for $125. They also had coconut queens and some other syagrus hybrids for the same price. 15 gallons, no matter what the size were all priced at $125. Here is a picture of one of the larger syagrus coronata x syagrus romanzoffianum he had for sale. Doesn’t show the same characteristics of the one I bought because mine was grown in full sun. The larger one was competing for sun and was stretched out a bit. (Over 12 feet planted height). Wish I had brought my trailer. Might have to make another trip up there to buy some more. The other picture is the one I planted in my yard. So nobody has any large trunking ones?? Would love to see some pictures. 

Was that from jungle jacks? I got my "coco-queen" there. Same deal. 125 for any of them. you picked a great one. some of the crosses have too much queen in them.

Edited August 27, 2018 by Stevetoad

[5150cycad]

Thanks. That’s the place. John is the guy to talk too. They have a great selection of palms, Cycads and Plumeria at great prices. The one I picked was in full sun all by itself so it seemed to show more of the coronata characteristics than the larger ones. They were all fighting for sun. There were a couple more like the one I bought. If I had the $$ I would go back and buy another one. Can’t wait to see it grow. Hope it keeps that same look. 

[Josue Diaz]

I found this online from the Palm Journal:

"Syagrus × camposportoana (Bondar) Glassman, Fieldiana (Bot.) 31: 392. 1968. (S. coronata × S. romanzoffiana).
Solitary, robust tree palm, to 10 m tall. Trunk 30 cm diam., flared or slightly
enlarged at base, ringed, internodes 3–10 cm. Leaves 12–30, arranged in 5 distinct, vertically spiraling rows, mostly ascending, few spreading, to 6.5 m long, distal 75 cm drooping; base to 1 m long, bulbous and swollen proximally, to 30 cm long, tapering to 70 cm long “neck” with prominent medial costa, margins with coarse fibers to 15 cm long, green with dense, mealy white tomentum; petiole 1–1.7 m long, 5 cm wide at base, 3 cm wide at apex, convex abaxially, flattened adaxially, green with mealy, white tomentum, margins with ragged, coarse fibers to 15 cm long, reducing to small teeth 2 cm long at apex; rachis to 2.5–3.8 m long, convex abaxially, flattened adaxially at base but becoming sharply angled at mid-blade; ca. 130 pinnae per side, ± irregularly arranged in groups of 2–6 and fanned in several planes to give plumose effect, to 105 × 3.5 cm, long- lanceolate, straight, distal 30–35 cm drooping, leathery, green adaxially, paler abaxially, elevated midrib adaxially, with 4 or 5 secondary nerves on either side, secondary nerves conspicuous abaxially, no ramentae. Inflorescences several, interfoliar in flower, to 2 m long, ascending to pendulous, 1-branched; peduncle to 1 m long, 4.5 × 3 cm at apex, densely covered with mealy, white tomentum; peduncular bract 2–3 m long, thick-leathery, becoming woody, green with
deciduous, whitish tomentum and densely,deeply, and prominently grooved abaxially; rachis 1–1.8 m long, tapering to 1–1.5 cm diam. at apex, yellow-green; rachillae numerous, 7–80 cm long, to 1.5 cm wide and flattened at base, tapering to 1–2 mm diam. at apex, glabrous, yellow-green, drooping, slightly flexuose. Staminate flowers in distal two-fifths of rachilla, 11 × 11 mm, white; pistillate flowers in proximal three-fifths of rachilla, 8 × 7 mm. Fruit 3–3.2 × 3 cm, ovoid, orange.

The description is supplemented from
cultivated material in Thailand. This natural hybrid occurs in Bahia, Brazil, where the ranges of Syagrus coronata and S. romanzoffiana overlap. Its leaves arranged in five, distinct, vertically spiraling rows and trunk leaf scars are similar to those of S. coronata, and it has the
appearance of a very robust form of this
species. Leaves, peduncular bracts and fruits are larger than those of S. coronata, while seeds are not as deeply ruminate as those of S. romanzoffiana. In Thailand, Ingwersen made this hybrid using S. coronata as the seed parent
and S. romanzoffiana as the pollen parent, and offspring have reached about 6 m height with 3 m of trunk after seven years from seed."

They also provide a couple of pictures. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.palms.org/palmsjournal/2011/vol55n3p141-154.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiv5fOm_JPdAhVGba0KHQgJCv8QFjAKegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1hRIwd-2_e_JQMl5h3KxD7

[Josh-O]

YES..

I have lots of experience with this cross. Yes  jungle jacks is the only place to get them. but.........,,,

they DO NOT LIKE  frost at all. Sold tons to customers in frosty zones and all got crispy over the last winter and it was a mild winter to boot.  they spot at 33F as well.

the ones I have were blemished at 36F at my nursery (so pissed about the BTY) they need to grow out of it still.

Johns dad did the cross in Thai land years back. I think this was crossed with syagrus picrophylla not coronata. The original batch came in as a numbered 8 I believe and the numbers got mixed up. If it was truly coronata x queen they would not blink at the frost or spot in winter. I Just want to give my personal experience with these.

this is a good problem free grower along the coast not inland frosty climates.

 

 

 

[5150cycad]

1 hour ago, Josh-O said:

YES..

I have lots of experience with this cross. Yes  jungle jacks is the only place to get them. but.........,,,

they DO NOT LIKE  frost at all. Sold tons to customers in frosty zones and all got crispy over the last winter and it was a mild winter to boot.  they spot at 33F as well.

the ones I have were blemished at 36F at my nursery (so pissed about the BTY) they need to grow out of it still.

Johns dad did the cross in Thai land years back. I think this was crossed with syagrus picrophylla not coronata. The original batch came in as a numbered 8 I believe and the numbers got mixed up. If it was truly coronata x queen they would not blink at the frost or spot in winter. I Just want to give my personal experience with these.

this is a good problem free grower along the coast not inland frosty climates.

 

 

 

Johns dad has done quite a few syagrus hybrids over the years, some of which he could identify and others he couldn’t other than the fact that they were some sort of syagrus hybrid. John was confident that the palm I bought was syagrus coronata x syagrus romanzoffia, with syagrus Coronata being the mother. Part of the reason I bought this hybrid was because of its looks as well as being a great palm for my climate. Looking forward to watching it grow. 

[Ben in Norcal]

@5150cycad I just picked up a small plant of this cross - would love to see any updated pics when you have time!

[5150cycad]

@Ben in Norcal the palm is at my rental house. Next time I am over there i will try and get a couple of pics. 

[LJG]

I have this palm too. However, sold to me as something else and for a lot more. It is a fast grower and already has trunk and has its first flower.