Sabinaria Magnifica -- how are your doing

[Jos Mannaart]

Thanks for the update Gene. Realy great results with Sabbie. So no direct sunlight to keep them well at this age. Your Sabinarias are nice coloured and no brown spots on the leaves. Do you ferilize?

[Gbarce]

yup - slow release pellets.  14-14-14

 

[Gbarce]

jos - well no direct morning sunlight for me here in the Philippines because our summers are pretty intense, but it might do well for you to give it morning sun in the Netherlands

 

[Jos Mannaart]

On 1/25/2019 at 3:46 PM, Gbarce said:

jos - well no direct morning sunlight for me here in the Philippines because our summers are pretty intense, but it might do well for you to give it morning sun in the Netherlands

 

Thanks, will give it a carefull try in the morning sun. Our summers are certainly not that intense I use 12-8-8 twelve months release tablets. 

[JANAIY]

Any updates of all those Sabinaria? Would love to see pictures to see the growth and would also like some input on watering. Do they like it moist in fast draining soil, mist everday  or no mist at all? ( I am in S Florida.). Can the pot sit in some water or better not?

I just got a one leaf in a very deep pot and I believe that it was a little bit too deep planted. So I took off the excessive soil in the surroundings to give the second leave a chance to develop.

How fast are they actually growing?

[Scott Cohen]

They are remote germinating palms, being deep is normal, be careful exposing to much as it could be detrimental. 

[JANAIY]

I don’t think the lower part of the leaf should be buried so I set it free . here some pics after. 
 

[Breadfruit Bill]

Great looking plants Gene!   Always enjoy pics from your collection...

I haven't so much as looked at my Sabinaria in months...  They're stuck in a shadehouse, bound up in a pot for sure...  One day soon I'll have overstory to plant under 

[Tracy S]

Here is my Sabinaria. It's been in the ground for a little over 2 years.  This plant is growing faster than I had expected. 

[JANAIY]

Beautiful . I live in Miami Beach and will keep it in a pot. Did you started with a seed or already with a young plant? Because I want to calculate the growth rate since you got it. 
Do you water daily, does she likes mist? 

[Tracy S]

 

 

Here is the picture when I bought the plant in Oct 2017. I put it in the ground in Jan 2018. I water it via its own  bubbler almost every day. I do not mist the plant at all.  I was surprised how quickly the plan grew as I expected it to be slow and possibly difficult to grow. I have found it to be super simple here.

 

Edited January 6, 2020 by Tracy S
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[Gunnar Hillert]

I am super excited that my 2 seedlings of Sabinaria magnifica are finally producing their first leaves (What a relief considering the price for the seeds ;-). Looks like they do okay so far in the cooler mid-elevations of Hawaii, west-side of the Big Island at 564m (1850ft). The pots are under a tall Banyan tree, receiving full shade.  Potting media is pretty much pure black cinders. It is a fairly moist micro-climate. Interestingly, I was able to kill the cheap stuff: I had some Syagrus romanzoffiana seedlings at the same spot and they died. 

[realarch]

Tracy, your Sabinaria looks fantastic, I need to get mine in the ground after seeing the growth on yours.

Gunnar, nice meeting you last night, at what was a terrific talk in Hilo. You went home with some great stuff for your garden.

Tim

[Morabeza]

On 1/16/2020 at 11:06 PM, Gunnar Hillert said:

I am super excited that my 2 seedlings of Sabinaria magnifica are finally producing their first leaves (What a relief considering the price for the seeds ;-). Looks like they do okay so far in the cooler mid-elevations of Hawaii, west-side of the Big Island at 564m (1850ft). The pots are under a tall Banyan tree, receiving full shade.  Potting media is pretty much pure black cinders. It is a fairly moist micro-climate. Interestingly, I was able to kill the cheap stuff: I had some Syagrus romanzoffiana seedlings at the same spot and they died. 

 

Congratulations I am at a similar elevation but have kept mine on a heating mat and they have grown faster than I anticipated. Perhaps I will take one off the heat come spring and then trial it outside in the 10-14C nights next winter in the company of Ceroxylon quindiuense.

[JANAIY]

I am experimenting with my 2 Sabinaria, one with 1 leaf (waiting for the 2nd one) and one fresh seedling coming from Hawaii. After too many temperature changes here 2 days ago I decided to put my seedling in the heated germination tray to see what is more crucial for faster growth. The light condition is rather dark where my heated box is sitting, so that will be interesting to see what triggers growth and what kind of changes occur. On the other side coming from Hawaii the temperature there is not as high as here during the night and its very wet there also. I hope my little seedling will be ok what I am doing.

This morning I can already tell that in those 2 days in the heated tray the leaf opened up more. Since I received it 13 days ago it grew in length about half inch. I like to keep a little diary on new species where little is known yet. 

[JANAIY]

I got my 2nd Sabinaria seedling from Jeff M in Hawaii and have to be really patient to see some changes. I decided to measure the length of the first spike to see if is actually growing. It is  but very slowly.  I decided to put it in my heated germinator box and after a few days now I can see a big difference. The leaf opened up and grew in length as well. Its now too long to keep it there , so now back outside. Will update. 

 

 

 

 

[JANAIY]

 

 

Here pics from my 1st attempt of repotting my other Sabinaria. I found the tap root coming out of a 8 inch long tree pot and saw some rot at the end of the tap root. I panicked afraid l will be losing my Sabinaria. I read every available info about repotting a Sabinaria before starting.  However its all easy said than done. And my attempt was quite a mess and I learned from a few mistakes. Here a pic from the tap root coming out underneath the pot . As you can see I am keeping them way too wet and 2 side roots look rotted as well. Now I felt the urgency to hurry up to get her in a dryer soil to stop what was happening. Not really sure if  too late I decided to repot right away.

 

 

I cut very carefully the bottom of the pot to avoid breaking the tap root . (1st mistake)  I had to keep my hand underneath because once cut the soil was shifting down because wet and seemed heavy too. I laid it carefully down and started to  cut the sidewall with scissors from down to upper part. (that was another mistake I figured later on). As soon I was done a whole new scenario in front of me. 

I was looking at side roots grown already all the way to the side of the pot and than downwards. I should have cut the pot from up to down that way less risking catching a root and maybe I should have used a knife and cut it from the outside? The roots appeared white and looked healthy to me.

Those roots you see are totally hard to the touch and thin like needles . Now I understand why they are so  fragile ,there is nothing flexible there. I have never seen /touched roots like that.

Common sense tells me  roots that hard  should be also more resistant to rot? 

 I decided without thinking further to put it in a taller and bigger tree pot 12" tall and around 6 inch wide.

And I wanted to keep  the same soil it was surrounded  in the new pot and than filling out the empty spots with the new soil I prepared. I was so concentrated to be as careful as possible I did not even remember how I did the job and my first doubts started to bother me. Did I really filled out the empty spots around the roots? I am starring at the pot and I see water was dropping out underneith and it was not stopping.  The soil was way too wet and I said to myself "what are you doing?"

I immediately decided to get the Sabinaria out of there again and here we go with the 2nd attempt of repotting.

This time a 2  gallon nursery pot. I know, what a mess, but I was panicking. I put a layer of small lava rock down in the pot and than a layer of  Leca pebbles to hopefully avoid wet feet. The soil mix I prepared with Espoma organic potting mix with 3 parts of peat moss, and equally perlite mixed in with some lava rock and leca pebbles. I was unable to find fine pine barc, I don't know but online it seems impossible to find. My whole challenge was to get the roots equally surrounded by the soil inside the pot and even having more space to move with my hands its quite impossible to pay attention of every single tiny root.

I grabbed the Sabinaria with both hands trying to keep the soil surrounding it, however half of the soil just slipped down in the pot and I was holding a naked Sabinaria half way up and the rest of the soil and the lower part in both hands. Now what? ( I wished I had other 2 hands)  I used 1 hand to fill up with soil while the other was holding the Sabinaria. Eventually I made it happen and at the end I felt satisfied. Now I don't know if my Sabinaria survives this nightmare and we will see that in weeks or months, but I have a good feeling and think she will be alright and maybe those roots are not as fragile as they are said to be. Because I expected rather to find thin very soft roots what can easily break, but those roots did not seem to break when all that soil slipped down from the roots. I topped the soil with leca pebbles and left it to rest. Now only time will tell. Fingers crossed.

one of the side roots, they are extremely stiff and hard to the touch, quite impressive

 

 

 

 

[JANAIY]

On 1/17/2020 at 4:06 AM, Gunnar Hillert said:

I am super excited that my 2 seedlings of Sabinaria magnifica are finally producing their first leaves (What a relief considering the price for the seeds ;-). Looks like they do okay so far in the cooler mid-elevations of Hawaii, west-side of the Big Island at 564m (1850ft). The pots are under a tall Banyan tree, receiving full shade.  Potting media is pretty much pure black cinders. It is a fairly moist micro-climate. Interestingly, I was able to kill the cheap stuff: I had some Syagrus romanzoffiana seedlings at the same spot and they died. 

Gunnar, any updates on your Sabinaria? Would like to see pics to see how far it grew

[Leekat]

On 2/26/2018 at 1:49 PM, Justin said:

Here's one of mine.  This is one is doing a little better than the other one that's still in the garden.  I had a third, but that one didn't make it.  I've put mulch around the other one that's still alive, and in a few months I'll see whether that has made any noticeable difference.

 

Is it still alive?

 

[Frond-friend42]

How does one come by seeds of these.  I imagine they must be remarkably rare.

[realarch]

Finally got this Sabinaria in the ground back in January. Not much of a setback and it’s starting to show faster growth. The petioles are getting a bit longer as well. It’s in a humid shady spot which gets bright afternoon light. 

Tim

[Frond-friend42]

I'm so jealous. I think I'm in love with this palm tree. How strange.  But where and how can one acquire seeds?

[Justin]

On 9/16/2020 at 4:18 PM, Leekat said:

Is it still alive?

 

Yes, here is a more recent photo, showing the first emerging split leaf.

 

 

[Gbarce]

This is one of the Sabinarias i planted in the ground.  It's a bit crowded in there

[Gbarce]

THese are the last 2 I still have in pots.  Back up plants -- just in case

[Gbarce]

THis is the very first one I planted in the ground.  Bu the looks of it though- it's been outpaced by the ones that are still in pots

 

[Gbarce]

Last but definitely not the least -- this is my largest Sabinaria and I just put it in the ground about a week ago

[Jos Mannaart]

Nice work Gene!!

Thanks for the pictures.

Here still moving slow indoors in the Netherlands but first year with two new leaves and happy with it.

Edited September 27, 2020 by Jos Mannaart

[Cape Garrett]

On 1/6/2020 at 10:28 AM, Tracy S said:

Here is my Sabinaria. It's been in the ground for a little over 2 years.  This plant is growing faster than I had expected. 

Picture updates please!