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Ceroxylon parvum.

Alberto
Alberto
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This 2 palms were the only germinators from 10 seeds that I bought some 12 years ago. They are growing below a Schinus mole tree and I´m thinking to give them more light now pruning back the tree and some other trees around. They never suffered any frost damage since planted. 

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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    Plumose and silvery undersides of the leaflets

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    Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

    Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

     

    I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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    Doing very well Alberto. One more species for me to try.

    Edited by Tyrone

    Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

     

     

    Alberto, are you sure your palm is c.parvum? From what I have read, parvum is the smallest of the genus Ceroxylon with a stem diameter to only 15cm with a compact crown.
    Couldnt it be something else?

    Btw, beautiful palm!

    I also have two ceroxylon in pots that supposed to be parvifrons, but they both look different.

     

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    35 minutes ago, maesy said:

    Alberto, are you sure your palm is c.parvum? From what I have read, parvum is the smallest of the genus Ceroxylon with a stem diameter to only 15cm with a compact crown.
    Couldnt it be something else?

    Btw, beautiful palm!

    I also have two ceroxylon in pots that supposed to be parvifrons, but they both look different.

     

    I bought the seeds from RPS. If it´s not C. parvum I don´t know which other ceroxylon it could be.....                                           

    http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Ceroxylon_parvum

    Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

    Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

     

    I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

    My parvifrons seeds also came from RPS. Who knows...

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    1 hour ago, maesy said:

    My parvifrons seeds also came from RPS. Who knows...

    C. parvifrons and C. parvum are 2 different species

     

    Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

    Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

     

    I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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    Yes I know. :rolleyes:

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    Today we cut two little trees and some thick branches of the Schinnus molle tree. The 2 Ceroxylon will have mote sunlight from now on

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    Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

    Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

     

    I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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    Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

    Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

     

    I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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    Calling @Darold Petty, I think he's got a parvum at his place. Maybe weigh in Darold?

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    Sorry, but no, I grow only C. parvifrons, quindiuense, and vogelianum.   :winkie:

    San Francisco, California

    I had this species for a number of years then realised that it must be C. pityrophyllum because it came from outside of parvum's distribution.  Thwey certainly look very similar. Mine flowered for the first time last year.

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    I agree that it looks very much like C. pityrophyllum, but there aren't any obvious traits that would preclude the possbility of it being C. parvum.   If C. parvum, it should be of flowering size.  If C. pityrophyllum, it will need a bit more height before it blooms.   

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    Brookings, OR, Pacific Coast of USA at 42° N.  Temperate rainforest climate, USDA Zone 9b, juncture of Sunset Zones 5 and 17.
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    On 3/16/2019 at 2:38 PM, Alberto said:

    Today we cut two little trees and some thick branches of the Schinnus molle tree. The 2 Ceroxylon will have mote sunlight from now on

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    Looking good! I was at the UC Berkeley Botanical garden yesterday and saw the two C. parvum planted there, getting big! Any idea what their cold tolerance is??

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    On 12/27/2020 at 3:03 PM, ExperimentalGrower said:

    Any idea what their cold tolerance is??

    I think they are pretty hardy (~25°F or so)when they start getting size. I was generously gifted a couple of C. parvifrons from @Darold Petty and they are doing fine but growing slowly up here at 41°N in Humboldt County.

    This is a C. vogelianum I have had in the ground for the last five years with some overhead protection from a doug fir tree. Most that has happened was some foliage damage when it was first planted at 30°F. I would think Ceroxylon pityrophyllum would possibly be even hardier, does anyone know a source for seeds? 

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