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[Jeff Searle]

Dave,

    Sorry, I think your confused on spirale. Spirale has mostly red in the leaf, a very ripple leaf edge like piecrust and then the entire leaf has a twist. It's a very narrow leaf also. next time your around,I'll show it to you.

[SubTropicRay]

Dave,

Is that Spirale?  I have one like that called "Twist and Point" but who knows where that name came from.

Jeff,

I'm still planning on being down there Saturday.

Ray

[Jeff Searle]

Ray,

    We will all get together, call me later in the week.

[Dave Butler]

(Jeff Searle @ Aug. 08 2006,20:19)

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Dave,

    Sorry, I think your confused on spirale. Spirale has mostly red in the leaf, a very ripple leaf edge like piecrust and then the entire leaf has a twist. It's a very narrow leaf also. next time your around,I'll show it to you.

Jeff,

I`m sure thats spirale it was given to me by John Bender and early records from the Reasoner nursery concur on its leaf type and color. I think the one you have is something else. Check back with Home depot where you got yours for the correct name.

[Dave Butler]

(Ray @ Tampa,Aug. 08 2006,20:48)

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Dave,

Is that Spirale?  I have one like that called "Twist and Point" but who knows where that name came from.

Jeff,

I'm still planning on being down there Saturday.

Ray

Ray,

Go to my web site and look under Reasoners nursery`s page. That is exactly what the catalogue says SPIRALE: A small dark green and corkscrew-shaped leaf. Not red like Mr. Searle said

[Dave Butler]

(Ray @ Tampa,Aug. 08 2006,11:40)

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Dave,

I'd like to get all of the old crotons in Doc Brown's first book.  Who has a "Tapestry"?

Ray

Ray,

I think Johnny Shelton has one or had

[SubTropicRay]

It sure looks like one.  I have the white version which is much less attractive.

[TooShort]

(Dave Butler @ Aug. 04 2006,17:49)

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Went to K-Mart today and found some 3gal crotons for $5.48, so I bought 3

Dave that croton (bravo) is very beautiful maybe a Kmart in the Orlando area has them also.

[Dave Butler]

Joe,

You can check, When I lived in Ocala the Home Depot had some different varieties. They had crotons for sale that I haven`t seen here for sale.

Good luck, Dave

[Dave Butler]

Baby Iguanas invading Crotons, Notice the little red arrows pointing to the lizards

[Dave Butler]

That day I counted 32 baby Iguanas crawling all over the crotons. Funny thing is they did not eat one plant only taking in the sun.

[SubTropicRay]

Nice "Ram's Horn"!!  It's old name is "Volutum".

[SubTropicRay]

Dave,

Do you have a "Norman Rockwell" photo?  How about "Dreer #7"?  "Norwood Beauty"?

Ray

[Dave Butler]

Norman Rockwell

[BobbyinNY]

Hey, Norman Rockwell... I think that's what I have..... According to Ray...

[Dave Butler]

Bobby,

Post a picture of that joker and lets check it out.

[Dave Butler]

Ray,

Not a very good photo, Norwood Beauty

[SunnyFl]

(Dave Butler @ Aug. 09 2006,12:51)

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That day I counted 32 baby Iguanas crawling all over the crotons. Funny thing is they did not eat one plant only taking in the sun.

The little iguanas are cute - and the Rams Horns are beauties!  They're quite high on my "want" list  They're stunning, with their bright yellow recurved leaves.

Just a random thought - when taking an outdoor break from work, I thought how fortunate I am that there are so many fire crotons (mamey) there - the sun was shining behind them and they were glowing.

[Dave Butler]

Baby Iguana on a unnamed hybrid croton

[Dave Butler]

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[SubTropicRay]

Dave is that the photo in "Tropica"?  I have to get some color copies of those photos.

[Dave Butler]

Ray,

LOL nothing gets by you, Yes it is I have the picture I took it with my camera. But I have a couple hundred photos with no names. I think its hiding somewhere. I have all the photos from Tropica copied to my computer.

[Dave Butler]

A sport growing out of a fishbone, Sport was air layered and this is what it looks like.

[Dave Butler]

Fishbone

[SunnyFl]

Hm, Fishbone and especially the Sport bear a slight resemblance to one of my "unknown" crotons - I'll have to post a pic, just as soon as I get my camera back from repair.  (Stupid thing conked right after I took the pic of my double-Seminole-pink hib.)

Very nice crotons, btw - the Fishbone and Sport.

[Dave Butler]

Keep your eye out for this guy, By the looks of things he wants some cuttings :cool:

[Jeff Searle]

Hey, DB,

  Is that you with those loppers in your hand? ???  Your not going to cut that down to 2' like the other crotons on the right side of the picture, are you?

[Dave Butler]

Wow, The masked man or the croton creeper caught in the act

[SubTropicRay]

Hi Sunny,

There is a croton well established in St. Pete called "Caribbean Star".  Perhaps that is what you have.  Could you post a photo?

Ray

[Dave Butler]

Monarch

[Dave Butler]

T. Major is sporting, The larger leaf

[SunnyFl]

(Ray @ Tampa,Aug. 12 2006,00:33)

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Hi Sunny,

There is a croton well established in St. Pete called "Caribbean Star".  Perhaps that is what you have.  Could you post a photo?

Ray

Hi Ray,

Here is one of my Unknown Crotons - the one you thought might be "Caribbean Star."  From the pic, it looks a bit like Fantasy (Karen), but in rl it doesn't - it's much more "twisted" looking, and the yellow is much more intense, w/ all new leaves being solid yellow.

I'd be very interested in what you think it is.

[SunnyFl]

And another pic of it:

[SunnyFl]

Also, I got another "unknown" (4 of them actually) - another with intense yellow color.

The new croton looks exactly like an all-yellow and green version of the Fire (Mammey) Croton.  Any ideas what this one might be?

[spockvr6]

(SunnyFl @ Aug. 13 2006,20:39)

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Also, I got another "unknown" (4 of them actually) - another with intense yellow color.

The new croton looks exactly like an all-yellow and green version of the Fire (Mammey) Croton.  Any ideas what this one might be?

This is rare for me, but Ill give it a try.

I believe that may be "Sunny Star" or perhaps a yellow form of "Curly Boy".

[SubTropicRay]

Sunny,

The first set of pictures looks too colorful to be a Caribbean Star.  The problem with crotons is two identical varieties can have very different color depending on the amount of light the plant gets.

Ray

[Eric in Orlando]

So is the "wild form" of Codiaeum variegatum available or anyknow knows what it looks like? I suspect it is not showy but I am curious as to what it looks like.

[SubTropicRay]

Eric,

The original form probably exists somewhere in a remote area of Borneo.  Codieaum hybridizes readily and is so genetically unstable that the possibilities are endless (although I'm still waiting for blue to appear in leaves).  The original is probably a basic green and lacks any of the spectacular color found in the hybrids of the last 100 years.

Ray

[SunnyFl]

Larry and Ray,

Thank you for trying to help me figure out what kind of crotons I have.

The ones in my pathetic little collection so far are:

Fire Croton

Stoplight

Petra

Fantasy

something simply called "thin-leaf" Fire Croton

Unknown Croton #1

Unknown Croton #2, which might be either "Sunny Star" or yellow "Curly Boy" and

Unknown Croton #3, a bit similar to Fantasy, but with thinner leaves and more of a pinkish hue.  Here it is:

[SubTropicRay]

Sunny,

The one you've pictured last is an AFD croton hybridized in Italy.  They were intended for indoor use for those who live in colder climates. AFD # 5 and 7 are sold pretty frequently at Home Depot but the one pictured is neither of the two.  My guess is if they hybridized and named #5 and #7, their has to be a # 2, 3, 6 etc. right?!  It's a nice, colorful plant nonetheless.

Ray