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Crotons Crotons Crotons

Dave Butler

By Dave Butler
in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms

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(Ray, Tampa @ Dec. 12 2006,08:48)

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Dave,

The narrow leaf Eburneum is all over Cairns.  I thought it was a white Amabile at first.

Got any more Dreer #7's sitting around?  That's a good looking plant.

Ray

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www.CrotonMania.com

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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That's the one.

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

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SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Bump.....need more photos Dave.

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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(Ray, Tampa @ Dec. 23 2006,20:12)

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Bump.....need more photos Dave.

Ray,

   I think the croton thing is gone. Kinda like Dave.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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I think you're right.  It's up to us now.

Ray

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

SunnyFl Mentor

SunnyFl

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I think the croton thing is gone. Kinda like Dave.

Eh?

The Thai hybrids are beautiful.  Where were the pictures taken?

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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(SunnyFl @ Dec. 24 2006,19:02)

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I think the croton thing is gone. Kinda like Dave.

Eh?

The Thai hybrids are beautiful.  Where were the pictures taken?

Hey Sunny, Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!

      I think he mentioned at one time, a Thai person sent him a book on these Thai hybrids and with all the names translated into English. PRICELESS!

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

SunnyFl Mentor

SunnyFl

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(Jeff Searle @ Dec. 24 2006,20:01)

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Hey Sunny, Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!

      I think he mentioned at one time, a Thai person sent him a book on these Thai hybrids and with all the names translated into English. PRICELESS!

Jeff

Wow!  What a treasure that book must be.

And Merry Christmas to you and your family - hope you have a wonderful Holiday!

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

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Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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BUMP......

This was one hell of a croton thread! I just finished looking through it all, man it took some time. But what a great collection of pictures and feedback from everyone.

Post #46 of Passion is just plain stunning!

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

SunnyFl Mentor

SunnyFl

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BUMP......

This was one hell of a croton thread! I just finished looking through it all, man it took some time. But what a great collection of pictures and feedback from everyone.

Post #46 of Passion is just plain stunning!

Jeff

Hey Jeff,

Thanks for bumping this thread! Really enjoyed looking over all the old posts with the different varieties of croton. Btw - I got the huge Rudy Bachman at your sale last weekend, this croton rocks! And the size of the leaves, wowww, just blazing with croton-y goodness :)

Oh, we also grabbed a Nestor, a Caribbean Star and Captain Kid. Gaww-geous!

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

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spockvr6

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Sunny! Long time no see! Glad to see you back!

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Yes Sunny, welcome home.

Thanks for the bump Jeff. Let's add to this thread.

"Queen Emma" is a might fine looking croton.

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

SunnyFl Mentor

SunnyFl

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Sunny! Long time no see! Glad to see you back!

Hi Larry! Yeah, it's been awhile - I missed you all! Larry, how is your garden doing, I remember the really nice photos that you posted of your crotons n' cordylines, I think it was last fall? If you're interested in adding to your collection, the USF sale is this coming weekend and the croton society will be there.

Hi Ray! Remember the big Gloriosa you pointed out to me at USF last year? So glad I got it, I treasure that one.

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

spockvr6 Grand Master

spockvr6

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Hi Larry! Yeah, it's been awhile - I missed you all! Larry, how is your garden doing, I remember the really nice photos that you posted of your crotons n' cordylines, I think it was last fall? If you're interested in adding to your collection, the USF sale is this coming weekend and the croton society will be there.

Sunny-

I and the garden are doing great!

That USF sale sounds like fun.......Ive thought about going so many times....but have never actually done so :blink:

Larry 

Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b

PALM MOD Grand Master

PALM MOD

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BUMP......

This was one hell of a croton thread! I just finished looking through it all, man it took some time. But what a great collection of pictures and feedback from everyone.

Post #46 of Passion is just plain stunning!

Jeff

A great example of why directly uploading pics is much better for PalmTalk than hosting them elsewhere. While the trouble maker who took the time to post all those pics is gone, at least we still have them to look at.

Thanks to those of you who help make this a fun and friendly forum.

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Borgy230

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Jeff, you found it! so now you know what I was talking about I assume.

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Central Floridave

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Thanks for bumping the thread up. I missed all those Thai Hybrid photos back in 2006.

Why are the Thai Hybrids so different? What do they do to them to get them to do that? Are they bonsai or something?

Central Florida Gardening Forum 2ndlight.Com

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Hi David,

Thai hybrids are just that, hybrids of hybrids of other hybrids. If you do this enough and with the right plants, you could really get some funky stuff.

Ray

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

gsn Veteran

gsn

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Croton guru's what can you tell me about "pie crust'

Does it get large,over 6 feet?

Cold tolerance?

Sun /shade / filtered?

Anyone have a pic?

thanks

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Hi Scott,

"Piecrust" is an old classic croton with very distinguishable leaves. As with most crotons, it prefers flitered light or direct, morning sun with afternoon shade. It is a good grower but doesn't get overly big (5 ft. tall). As with most of the early hybrids, it has more cold tolerance than the newer introductions. It can tolerate a couple of hours below freezing temps with minimal damage.

Ray

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

gsn Veteran

gsn

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Ray thanks for the info, as always your right on top of these crotons.

I have one more question, is fall, as in right now, a really bad time to be planting crotons in central Florida?

thanks again

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

gsn Veteran

gsn

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Saw this is Ricks croton collection thread, is this Pie Crust?

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Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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I'd wait till spring just be safe. Keep up the miticide as they love the dry conditions we've been having.

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

Jeff in Costa Rica Grand Master

Jeff in Costa Rica

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Ray or anyone, do you know what this croton is? It's a recent aquisition.

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Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Jeff,

Thats pretty sweet. I can't say I know it, or have ever seen it before. Maybe Ray knows something.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Jeff in Costa Rica Grand Master

Jeff in Costa Rica

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Thanks Jeff. When I saw this croton, I had to buy it. The colors are so intense and it doesn't look like any others that are currently growing on the property.

Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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...and now that you have it, your friend Ray would like a cutting. I need a sample in hand to really give you a good ID :lol:

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

Jeff in Costa Rica Grand Master

Jeff in Costa Rica

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I think I can manage that! :lol:

Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

SunnyFl Mentor

SunnyFl

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Ray or anyone, do you know what this croton is? It's a recent aquisition.

Whatever it is, it sure is striking! That's a quite a find, Jeff. I hear there are a number of new hybrids coming out of Costa Rica - that's a really nice one.

To Ray, Larry, and any croton afficionado who happens to be in Pinellas - the WalMart (!) on US 19 in Pinellas Park had some great varieties hiding toward the back of the garden center. I was over at WM getting the nail out of my tire (grrrr) - and wandered over to look at the plants. I saw a couple of Nestors (!) back there, a green and yellow oak-leaf type, and one I have no clue what it is, with bright yellows and reds.

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

Jeff in Costa Rica Grand Master

Jeff in Costa Rica

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Update on that Croton. I planted it in the last month and kind of forgot about it until I found the pictures I had taken of it. I checked on it today and almost all the leaves dropped off of it! I think there are about 7 or 8 leaves left on it. The stem feels firm so I have a feeling it will recover and leaf out again, at least I hope so. Now if I could just remember which nursery I bought if from. They had at least 6-8 of them for sale and I only grabbed one!

Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

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Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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BUMP........

With all the talk going on over at the Palmpedia Site, this thread is a classic. This needs to be preserved. There's lots of great pictures and information (debates) on this group of plants. The Croton Society is at it's peak nowadays in regards to popularity, collectors growing more, people out looking for varieties in yards,etc.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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BUMP........

With all the talk going on over at the Palmpedia Site, this thread is a classic. This needs to be preserved. There's lots of great pictures and information (debates) on this group of plants. The Croton Society is at it's peak nowadays in regards to popularity, collectors growing more, people out looking for varieties in yards,etc.

Thanks for the bump Jeff. I had never noticed this thread while surfing through the old threads. Great photos and discussions.Took up two + hours of my life. :drool:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Zeeth Grand Master

Zeeth

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Reading over posts, I noticed one of the appeals to crotons was their ease of propagation. Can someone tell me how this is done? Do you break the stem off and keep it in water or what? Thanks

Keith

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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palmislandRandy

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Reading over posts, I noticed one of the appeals to crotons was their ease of propagation. Can someone tell me how this is done? Do you break the stem off and keep it in water or what? Thanks

Keith

This works for me! Cut woody stem @ 45 degree angle & strip off about 1 inch of bark (till it's white), dip in Rootone & stick in pot of potting soil & a few weeks some growth! Try not to disturb the cuttings while they root. :angry: Almost idiot proof! :D I'm sure some of the experts will have some more rooting tips, but this is working!

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

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Zeeth

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Reading over posts, I noticed one of the appeals to crotons was their ease of propagation. Can someone tell me how this is done? Do you break the stem off and keep it in water or what? Thanks

Keith

This works for me! Cut woody stem @ 45 degree angle & strip off about 1 inch of bark (till it's white), dip in Rootone & stick in pot of potting soil & a few weeks some growth! Try not to disturb the cuttings while they root. :angry: Almost idiot proof! :D I'm sure some of the experts will have some more rooting tips, but this is working!

Thanks! There are crotons everywhere here, so now if I see an especially nice one I'll know how to make it mine :evil:

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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Reading over posts, I noticed one of the appeals to crotons was their ease of propagation. Can someone tell me how this is done? Do you break the stem off and keep it in water or what? Thanks

Keith

This works for me! Cut woody stem @ 45 degree angle & strip off about 1 inch of bark (till it's white), dip in Rootone & stick in pot of potting soil & a few weeks some growth! Try not to disturb the cuttings while they root. :angry: Almost idiot proof! :D I'm sure some of the experts will have some more rooting tips, but this is working!

Thanks! There are crotons everywhere here, so now if I see an especially nice one I'll know how to make it mine :evil:

I forgot :drool: ...make sure you plant the bottom side down! I think a few of my first attempts that failed were upside down.

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

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Palmə häl′ik

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Holy Macaroni!

This thread is LikeWoah!

*NOTE TO SELF*

"Self", I need more crotons. :drool:

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Holy Macaroni!

This thread is LikeWoah!

*NOTE TO SELF*

"Self", I need more crotons. :drool:

Ray - you may appreciate these links! :rolleyes:

New Site for the International Croton Society HERE with a new Gallery HERE, and an area for Unknown Cultivar IDs HERE

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

  • 8 months later...
Moose Grand Master

Moose

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These plants have made a large come back. blush.gif They are still under utilized in many Florida landscapes. wacko.gif Their brillant colorations are very striking! cool.gif

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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