17 hours ago, sonoranfans said:

Cedric I am fine with leaving the next generation proliferation to the professional nursery men in my area, the people who do this for a living and are better at it than I.  I will support their efforts as a customer as I believe they are easily the best source of future palm species availability for the next generation.  Also, the efforts at botanical gardens within a few hours: Leu, Kopsick, and Fairchild are going do anything I can do in this area and much more but 100x better.  I will check the link you provided, thanks!  Its a 10a palm so I have to consider the spot.  I also like livistona jenkinsiana, a beautiful palm tha might not be cold tolerant enough for my yard.  I have 4 other livistona species which are trunking in my yard(saribus, chinensis, mariae, and decora).  

Yah I know what you mean. Luckily though some slow growing species are also rather nice at any age.  Ideal world everyone would be growing natives too.

Good luck

If everyone grew natives, many magnificent palms would still only be on madagascar or perhaps extinct, and even Hawaii would not even have coconut palms.  Many endangered species have been rescued by NOT growing natives.  "Native" is kind of fake anyway and is used in a misrepresented way.  In florida we have 6(?) zones, anything native up north is not native down south but that doesnt stop the "native" labels and commercialism of the concept of native plants.  Developers plant many "native" southern oaks in my area, and its illegal to remove them.  But most of them are actually hybrids called "cathedral oaks", they dont grow as wide and are smaller trees, but they are no more "native" than any other man made hybrid.   The cathedral oaks are needing much more maintenance, they grow inward all too often into "brillo pad crowns" with too many branches so they are $300 a pop to trim every few years as young adults if you want them to look healthy as a smaller version of the real southern oak.  I have acres and acres of mixed southern oak and sabal palmetto forests all around in my area, they are gorgeous and certainly not endangered.  I think the key here is not to proliferate invasive species, species that will take over and threaten the natives.  the worst palms are some phoenix species(reclinata hybrids, sylvestris etc) and you can see them taking over the undergrowth near some housing developments.  Brazilian pepper is incredibly invasive here, it speads like a wildfire.  

Thats one can of worms....lol.

Anecdotal evidence maybe suggests in your area the concept of native may be "fake", in some areas of you local municiple planting however I wouldn't read that as being universaly true.  

 

On 11/26/2016 at 9:31 AM, Eric in Orlando said:

ce

Awesome palms. I just looked at them on Google Street View and they still look good on their 2024 photos. They are planted at 2 entrances at the PGA Plaza on PGA Blvd., eighteen of them. They are of course, much taller than in the 2016 posting. I've also seen the nice center-median planting in Jupiter on Military Trail. Please post other plantings of this palm that you might know about.

Not the black stem variety, but this one is at Lake Wire in Lakeland, FL.  This photo was from November 2019.

It does flower and produce viable offspring.  The empty spot in front of it was a second specimen that died after the January 2010 and December 2010 cold events.  The photo below is the same palm  August 2025.  If you like the bright red berries that eventually turn black before the fruit drops, it's a fun one to grow.

This palm tree is very beautiful. It has a very tropical look.

6 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

Not the black stem variety, but this one is at Lake Wire in Lakeland, FL.  This photo was from November 2019.

n

It does flower and produce viable offspring.  The empty spot in front of it was a second specimen that died after the January 2010 and December 2010 cold events.  The photo below is the same palm  August 2025.  If you like the bright red berries that eventually turn black before the fruit drops, it's a fun one to grow.

 

That palm is really a survivor, so beautiful. It'd be nice to plant one of its offspring next to it to replace the one that died.