chamaedorea anemophila

[gyuseppe]

in the last few months I bought 50 seeds of chamaedorea   anemophila  from rarepalmseeds

those who cultivate it?  some info please?
on the internet  I not found nothing on this species of chamaedorea
 

[empireo22]

good idea reusing the yogurt cups! did you cut holes on the bottom?

[Pal Meir]

  On 6/9/2016 at 7:17 PM, gyuseppe said:

in the last few months I bought 50 seeds of chamaedorea   anemophila  from rarepalmseeds

those who cultivate it?  some info please?
on the internet  I not found nothing on this species of chamaedorea

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Nothing?

http://www.palms.org/principes/1995/vol39n1p14-20.pdf

[Steve Mac]

I just stuck them in the ground in dappled light under a tree, slowish but doing ok.

Going pinnate after 4 or 5 baby leaves.

[gyuseppe]

  On 6/9/2016 at 8:40 PM, empireo22 said:

good idea reusing the yogurt cups! did you cut holes on the bottom? 

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yes always make holes in the bottom for water drainage

[gyuseppe]

  On 6/9/2016 at 9:35 PM, Pal Meir said:

Nothing?

http://www.palms.org/principes/1995/vol39n1p14-20.pdf

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yes Pal ,I just know that is was identified in 1995 by Donald Hodel , is that located to Panama and Costa Rica, where it grows between 1000 and 2100 meters in height

[gyuseppe]

  On 6/10/2016 at 1:00 AM, gtsteve said:

I just stuck them in the ground in dappled light under a tree, slowish but doing ok.

Going pinnate after 4 or 5 baby leaves.

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yes Steve, I have noticed that they are slow 
the your where they came from? they were made from seeds ?
 

[Palms4Steve]

Hi Giuseppe,

Here is a photo of mine.  I don't think they need any different growing conditions to most chamaedoreas. I have them in filtered light in a moist sheltered position. They do seem to be a little slower growing. These were about 6 inch high seedlings when planted about 5 years ago.

ciao Steve 

[gyuseppe]

Hello Steve

look a lot like chamaedorea oblongata, is so?

you do well to put more plants in order to have male and female, to see if they set seeds,
here my chamaedorea oblongata produce seeds every year

this summer here, I have sown 9 species of chamaedorea, 3 are already germinated

CIAO !

[Palms4Steve]

  On 6/12/2016 at 7:48 AM, gyuseppe said:

Hello Steve

look a lot like chamaedorea oblongata, is so?

you do well to put more plants in order to have male and female, to see if they set seeds,
here my chamaedorea oblongata produce seeds every year

this summer here, I have sown 9 species of chamaedorea, 3 are already germinated

CIAO !

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They do look very similar to Chamaedorea oblongata. The leaves look more cupped on oblongata. Will probably plant some more if I see some for sale. But hopefully already have male and female. There are 3 plants in the photo. They have not flowered yet.

ciao

[Darold Petty]

I grew several plants of C. anemophila from the first RPS offering.  They seemed to want warmer conditions than my heat-starved microclimate (15-17C daily summer high).

  I gave my plans to 'Jim in Los Altos'.  Perhaps they will do better for him.  

[Jim in Los Altos]

  On 6/12/2016 at 8:50 PM, Darold Petty said:

I grew several plants of C. anemophila from the first RPS offering.  They seemed to want warmer conditions than my heat-starved microclimate (15-17C daily summer high).

  I gave my plans to 'Jim in Los Altos'.  Perhaps they will do better for him.  

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Darold, after some initial shock, the three plants you gave me have  begun to grow nicely. They are still small but are much greener and happier than shortly after putting them in the ground. Winter sun caused some leaf burn initially and spring and summer sun is shielded by Bismarckia and Howea. I'm looking forward to seeing them prosper. Thanks again!

[KrisKupsch]

I have one in a shady site and was a bit small but has picked up fine. Temps to 2C and I never care for it. Annual rainfall fractionally less than 80". Clay drained soil. 

[Mandrew968]

I have two in poor positions--dry and maybe too much light. They are still growing and I believe both are showing male. Love the mustache terminal leaves!

[gyuseppe]

  On 6/12/2016 at 8:50 PM, Darold Petty said:

I grew several plants of C. anemophila from the first RPS offering.  They seemed to want warmer conditions than my heat-starved microclimate (15-17C daily summer high).

  I gave my plans to 'Jim in Los Altos'.  Perhaps they will do better for him.  

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Hello Darold  !

as you know, here many hot in summer, here chamaedorea grow even in winter, but not all species

if your not hot summer, how do you grow your chamaedorea plumosa?
This species  very hot to grow? I have noticed that chamaedorea plumosa are fast growing

 

[Steve Mac]

  On 6/10/2016 at 1:51 AM, gyuseppe said:

"the your where they came from? they were made from seeds ?"

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 Giuseppe, They were 4" seedlings from Colin Wilson, a couple of years ago I think. Colin always gives or sells dioecious Chames in groups of 4 or 5. 

And they are all growing at different rates, there are 4, ignore the tiny D. pinnatifrons on the right that has not grown since I put it in earlier. 

 

 

[tbearz]

Not all of Darold's seedlings went to Jim, one landed in my garden in San Francisco.  This is a really tough grow for Chams. here.  This is the first Cham. in my garden to black spot in winter and it is so slow that it never fully recovers over the summer.  I think it may be because the leaves less leathery and tough than a lot of Chams and it needs a pretty consistent humidity and temperature year round.  I have many Chams - geonomiformis, oblongata, adscendens, klotschiana, etc. - in the same bed and they look pretty perfect regardless of the season.

[XYZ]

Thom:

For reference, three of the four species you mention have populations that come from forests that experience definite dry seasons in habitat, esp. adscendens. The fourth (geo) has some very tough ecotypes, may just be tucked away in a corner where it can handle the seasonal variations in RH, but is known to do OK planted out in some shady spots in SoCal anywise. I have overwintered a couple unusual cloud forest Cham spp. on a deck here on the Peninsula with no issues whatsoever as long as they are watered frequently, sheltered from high winds and midday-afternoon direct sun. While one of the central Panamanian populations of anemophila does get beat up by the weather a bit, I believe the RPS seed originated in very benign forests in Veraguas. I would not expect palms from those localities to perform well under local conditions. By and large, I think any chamaedorea with coriaceous leaves or leaflets is a much better bet for warm temperate gardens than the taller species with papery, pinnate leaflets originating from cool, perhumid habitats. Your experience seems to be confirmation of this. I have some tallish Cham keelelorum in the greenhouse that I might test outside this year in a shaded oak grove in Woodside just to confirm my suspicions.

J

[gyuseppe]

here in my climate ,many species of chamaedorea are fine,oblongata and klotschiana  also produce seeds,including all species of chamaedorea I made from seed, only chamaedorea linearis always died of unknown causes, while chamaedorea woodsoniana not die, but never grow good

[gyuseppe]

unfortunately all dead 😢

[tim_brissy_13]

I germinated a few from a batch of 10 seed from RPS about 7-8 years ago. They were tricky at small seedling size from memory and a few damped off. I’m now left with 1 that is nearly mature. It’s an interesting little palm; the colours are a bit different to other similar Chamaedorea and it has a real contrast between dark green with bright yellow highlights near the petiole base. 
 

It now seems pretty tough. Never really gets damage from temperatures between -1.5C and 43C. 

[tim_brissy_13]

Forgot a photo: