Will A CHAMAEROPS HUMILIS Mediterranean fan palm grow in zone 6a?

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

I found this on EBAY. Here is the Item listing.  It is a total of 40 us dollars.  It seems like a better deal then the windmill palms that sell for 80$ that are half the size.  I read they are the most northernmost natral occuring palm up to France.  And have been Grown in England.  any advice?  here is the listing link.http://www.ebay.com/itm/150811069951?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[PalmTreeDude]

For growing outdoors in zone 6a, they will need protection. I am in 7b and it is about there limit with no protection.

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

21 minutes ago, PalmTreeDude said:

For growing outdoors in zone 6a, they will need protection. I am in 7b and it is about there limit with no protection.

What kind of protection will it need?  do you also know where I could get some Windmill Palms for lower prices  (under 50$)  

[SouthSeaNate]

No chance in zone 6a, unless you basically build a heated greenhouse over it. Most of England is zone 8 & 9.. Chamaerops humilis can take down to around -10C/14F (maybe -12C/10F at a push) but only when mature & even then will likely be defoliated at the very least. Even a Trachycarpus fortunei is likely going to need protection in zone 6a...

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

16 minutes ago, SouthSeaNate said:

No chance in zone 6a, unless you basically build a heated greenhouse over it. Most of England is zone 8 & 9.. Chamaerops humilis can take down to around -10C/14F (maybe -12C/10F at a push) but only when mature & even then will likely be defoliated at the very least. Even a Trachycarpus fortunei is likely going to need protection in zone 6a...

Thank you for the insight.  what about a smaller trachycarpus wagnerianus?  2-3ft?

[faceyourfaces]

37 minutes ago, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

Thank you for the insight.  what about a smaller trachycarpus wagnerianus?  2-3ft?

It's unlikely that a waggie would survive a Zone 6a winter, especially at that small of a size. A Sabal minor or a needle palm would be the best choice for your zone provided that you plant it in a sheltered location (such as next to a south/east facing wall) and protect it for its first few winters in the ground.

[SouthSeaNate]

Trachycarpus wagnerianus have the same hardiness as standard Trachycarpus fortunei, they also grow as tall, they just have smaller & stiffer leaves.

[mcrawford]

The C. humilis v. cerifera, which grows in the Atlas mountains of Morocco has reached 22F on several occasions

at my home in the mountains east of Phx.  I don't know how cold it will ultimately go, however.  I would search it

out, as it is a beautiful blue and not too tall to cover w/frost cloth if needed.  Here is a photo of mine a couple winters

ago.

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Silver med fan is just a few degrees more cold hardy than the green variant.  The only palms that have a chance to survive in CT are needle or sabal minor and both would still require protection.

[Flow]

But then again, protection is easy enough to give it a try, at least for S. minor and Rhapidophyllum. The cerifera will also only gain height very slowly and the standard humilis still much slower than T. fortunei. So, even if you were to build a little styrofoam house, you could use it forever.

On the Trachy side you could try T. nanus which is just as hardy as fortunei but trunkless or T. geminisectus which will probably not grow taller than 2m but really nobody knows for sure because they have only been discovered recently and are so slow. Mine took -10C without any damage.