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Cold hardy coccothrinax ID needed

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Hey guys. I got this coccothrinax just as "coco sp" a few years ago. It handles cold, frost,heat and even a 2x6 dropped on it (damage on bottom left leaves from when the spears were flattened) great. Never spots or burns. But what is it!!!!

 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Whatever it is I want one Toadman!  That thing looks awesome.

1 hour ago, Stevetoad said:

Hey guys. I got this coccothrinax just as "coco sp" a few years ago. It handles cold, frost,heat and even a 2x6 dropped on it (damage on bottom left leaves from when the spears were flattened) great. Never spots or burns. But what is it!!!!

 

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I think it might be an argentata like mine.

I'm thinking maybe argentea. C. argentata has super droopy leaves. 

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Once I bought seeds of C. montana because of the possible cold hardiness.......   http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/CocMon.shtml

 

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Barbie maybe?

Not sure what it is but it is not argentata (droopy, dark green leaves, silvery underneath) nor montana (has very distinctive fiber weave no one can miss).

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Thrinax morrisii

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

 

Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

2 hours ago, Zeeth said:

I'm thinking maybe argentea. C. argentata has super droopy leaves. 

Okay, Keith.  I stand corrected.  Mine has moderately droopy older leaves, but the new leaves are rather stout with the leaflets sticking straight out.

15 minutes ago, aztropic said:

Thrinax morrisii

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

 

Scott,

I am curious what are your normal highs and lows for Dec. and Jan.?

John

65F / 45F  although there are several mid 70's and lower 30's and usually 1 or 2 upper 20's.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona 

Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

Not knowing anything about Leucothrinax morrsii, I would have otherwise guessed C. argentea. It looks like the one that I'm growing, with the fully circular, rather dainty leaves. Mine is also nearly pure silver/ white underneath as well... 

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Not Thrinax or Leucothrinax. Petioles don't fork from what I see. So many Coccothrinax have many of that one's attributes of lime green leaves and yellow hastulas: hiorami, litoralis, argentea.....

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

3 hours ago, aztropic said:

65F / 45F  although there are several mid 70's and lower 30's and usually 1 or 2 upper 20's.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona 

Oh, man, sorry, that's just a little too chilly for Coconut Palms, even for a Mexican Tall.  Those temps give you an average temp of 55F, which too cool for them.  Even the Newport Beach (where a famous Coconut Palm survived for about 30 years) average in Dec, and Jan. is 56F, and they don't receive any 20'sF at all, and usually not any low 30'sF even.  They struggle to make it through my winters here in Corpus Christi, where I have an average temp of 57.5F in Jan.  I think the ONLY reasons the one in Newport Beach made it at all was because it was planted in a PERFECT microclimate along a sidewalk next to a building with a lot of concrete and asphalt around it, and because I think it was the Green Hawaiian Tall variety, which is apparently more tolerant of chilly winter time weather than other varieties, but even so, it really struggled for many years.

John

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1 hour ago, PalmatierMeg said:

Not Thrinax or Leucothrinax. Petioles don't fork from what I see. So many Coccothrinax have many of that one's attributes of lime green leaves and yellow hastulas: hiorami, litoralis, argentea.....

Yes. No fork. I have a leucothrinax and it's more floppy too. This is semi ridged. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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6 hours ago, Mandrew968 said:

Barbie maybe?

I don't think so. I've had a few of these and they always yellowed and burned in cold weather and they were much softer on the leaves. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Meg could be right with litoralis... 

ahhh hech Steve! It looks good, it's growing great lets just call is Coccothrinax sp. Santa freeze.

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Could it be Coccothrinax scoparia?

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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