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Germinating seeds in closed containers

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is air ventilation need to seeds germinated 

we have some bugs here sometimes it damages palm seeds when planted in open area ( lay eggs inside palm seeds)

i think about germinating in closed plastic containers, or glass bottels  filled with wet sand.

any ideas 

 

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That's basically just like the baggie method.  It should work if the soil isn't too moist to cause fungus before they sprout. Just keep them warm and they pop in no time. Then just plant them like normal.  I'm no expert but that's how I've done it.

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I have been doing that for ever. Works like a charm, but make sure the soil is not too wet. Excess wetness kills the seeds in no time.

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This works great, and as has already been pointed out, make sure the soil is moist, but not soaked. I have used Tupperware type plastic containers to germinate thousands of seeds over the years. Clean the seeds, push them down just a little bit below the surface, add water to make the soil moist, put the cover on the container and put it in a warm place and wait a couple of months. and if the seeds are fresh you should see excellent results. :)

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

nitsua0895 Rising Star

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  On 1/18/2016 at 5:03 PM, bgl said:

This works great, and as has already been pointed out, make sure the soil is moist, but not soaked. I have used Tupperware type plastic containers to germinate thousands of seeds over the years. Clean the seeds, push them down just a little bit below the surface, add water to make the soil moist, put the cover on the container and put it in a warm place and wait a couple of months. and if the seeds are fresh you should see excellent results. :)

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Do you use a heating pad? I'm trying to find a warm place for when I start germinating more seeds. Right now I'm using heater vents but haven't gotten any results yet. 

bgl Grand Master

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  On 1/18/2016 at 5:19 PM, nitsua0895 said:

Do you use a heating pad? I'm trying to find a warm place for when I start germinating more seeds. Right now I'm using heater vents but haven't gotten any results yet. 

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No, never used a heating pad. Just make sure you put the container in a warm place and it should work great. Not saying a heating pad won't be good - I just don't have any experience with that and never felt the need.

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

User00 Mentor

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  On 1/18/2016 at 5:22 PM, bgl said:

 Just make sure you put the container in a warm place and it should work great.

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our daytime temperature is 28-24 C average and go to 30C at  noon, night temp drop to 19C is this enough 

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Josh-O Grand Master

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  On 1/18/2016 at 5:22 PM, bgl said:

No, never used a heating pad. Just make sure you put the container in a warm place and it should work great. Not saying a heating pad won't be good - I just don't have any experience with that and never felt the need.

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I would think in your amazing climate Bo you would probably never need a heating pad?:D

 

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nitsua0895 Rising Star

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In a month or two we'll have plenty of warmth but today we've got a high of 48F and a low of 25F. The sun is getting a lot stronger day by day but it feels awful outside with the wind so I might go ahead and get a heating pad for now.

bgl Grand Master

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  On 1/18/2016 at 5:34 PM, Josh-O said:

I would think in your amazing climate Bo you would probably never need a heating pad?:D

 

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Actually, location is irrelevant as long as you don't live in an unheated house in a cold climate. :bemused: Normal reasonably warm indoor environment, no matter where you are, is perfectly sufficient.

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Josh-O Grand Master

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  On 1/18/2016 at 6:37 PM, bgl said:

Actually, location is irrelevant as long as you don't live in an unheated house in a cold climate. :bemused: Normal reasonably warm indoor environment, no matter where you are, is perfectly sufficient.

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Oooops, I meant to say outdoor germination in your climate..lol

it seems the top of the water heater is always a good location for indoors.

I normally use heat mats with seed trays on top for my germination projects :) 

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

bgl Grand Master

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True, outdoor germination is of course an entirely different scenario. And that works here, but is not optimal. A cool winter night could see the temperature drop all the way down into the upper 50s. :bemused: Indoor germination definitely the preferred approach, and especially if you live in a house with insulation. There are many houses here without insulation but then the indoor temperature will more or less be equal to the outdoors.

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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  On 1/18/2016 at 5:03 PM, bgl said:

This works great, and as has already been pointed out, make sure the soil is moist, but not soaked. I have used Tupperware type plastic containers to germinate thousands of seeds over the years. Clean the seeds, push them down just a little bit below the surface, add water to make the soil moist, put the cover on the container and put it in a warm place and wait a couple of months. and if the seeds are fresh you should see excellent results. :)

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Hey, so the container stays closed for a month? no air holes in it?. Do you water once and leave closed for the month?

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  On 8/12/2024 at 12:45 AM, natureberry said:

Hey, so the container stays closed for a month? no air holes in it?. Do you water once and leave closed for the month?

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You can potentially leave closed for years. I’ve had seeds sprout after 5-7 years in a closed baggy after being forgotten about. I’ve heard of others’ stories of even longer. 

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  On 8/12/2024 at 12:45 AM, natureberry said:

Hey, so the container stays closed for a month? no air holes in it?. Do you water once and leave closed for the month?

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Yes, works great! Seeds don't need sunshine or air ventilation to germinate. Once you see the first leaf, different story and then the tiny seedlings will need to get exposed to air & daylight.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Johnny Palmseed Mentor

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  On 8/12/2024 at 12:45 AM, natureberry said:

Hey, so the container stays closed for a month? no air holes in it?. Do you water once and leave closed for the month?

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Fresh air is not required for seeds to “breath”.  But depending on how moist your medium is, you might want to ventilate your container. It will depend on your starting conditions. Soak the medium and drain it. Make sure it is damp but not wet. Plant your seeds. If you notice excessive condensation in the container, vent it out. If it looks dry, add a few drops of water.

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  On 8/12/2024 at 11:32 AM, Johnny Palmseed said:

Fresh air is not required for seeds to “breath”.  But depending on how moist your medium is, you might want to ventilate your container. It will depend on your starting conditions. Soak the medium and drain it. Make sure it is damp but not wet. Plant your seeds. If you notice excessive condensation in the container, vent it out. If it looks dry, add a few drops of water.

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In such a case, how then do you control fungal growth in such a closed container?

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aztropic Grand Master

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Start with sterilized materials. Fresh plastic containers. Baked or microwaved medium. Seeds that have had all fruit removed and been soaked in diluted bleach or hydrogen peroxide 10 minutes. Wash your hands before touching anything.

 

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Mesa, Arizona 

Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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