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Is there a small palm like a Bismarckia n.


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Posted

We love the look of the big silver/blue palms but we cant fit it in.

We even bought a "Blue dwarf" Pritchardia hillbrandii and were very disappointed,

it arrived green as the lawn, as apparently a lot of them are.

Is there another small palm that is really blue or silver?

Oh, we do have lovely Ch. metalicas too. 

Cheers Steve and liz

Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

Posted

Chamaerops cinefera or how ever you spell it. Also brahea super silver isn't very big. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Posted

Serenoa and Nanorrhops silver forms are both nice as well.

 

Regards Neil

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Chamaerops humilis v. argentea, from the Atlas mountains of Morocco, individuals vary in 'blueness' and the color is lessened in cool, humid, or shady conditions.

You  might find it listed as 'cerifera', but argentea is correct, as it was published first, (1885 versus 1920)   :) 

San Francisco, California

Posted

Kinda rare, but Coccothrinax boschiana would also fill the bill.

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

 

 

Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

Posted

Brahea Armata Much like the Super Silver. But it's slow growing you'll want to start w 15ga. Bismarkia grows fast. 

Brahea Nitida also. 

 

copernicia Hospita ! I'm looking for one myself 

Posted

Latania loddigesii looks like a smaller version of a Bismarkia.

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Posted

Thanks, that is a good selection to start with, I will see what i can source.

Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

Posted

Coccothrinax macroglossa Azul if you can find one.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

"Is there a small palm like a Bismarckia n.?" — Yes, there is, and it [Chamaerops hum. cerifera] is always bluish white and really small (the size of the pot is 12x12cm): :greenthumb::D

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Ok thank you gals and guys, I am sure that we will find one of those.

Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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Latania!

If you can get one to grow, they're wonderful.

But way wayyyyy slower than a Bizzie, like 1/10 the speed. But so pretty, especially the red ones.

Viva Latania!

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Posted

Silver Sereona can be really silver.

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David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

Brahea decumbens is small and blue.

Don't forget the blue cycads (Encephalartos sp.)

Yucca rostrada is also a great blue companion

with a small footprint.

All the above take our temperature extremes as well (25F-115F).

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Don't forget Copernicia cerifera

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

I recently acquired a hybrid Copernicia, baileyana x hospita, which due to its slower growth and more upright structure will have a smaller footprint than the Bismarckia nobilis.  Its a great look, very rigid fan leaves, great silvery color, but much much slower growing.  I have a Bismarckia in my Carlsbad garden which is now smothering a clump of Dypsis lutescens on one side, and Dypsis pembana on the other side, as it has such a big footprint. 

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

Posted

Thank you, to our online friends,

A lot of those blue and silver ones seem to be slow growers unfortunately.

We should have started earlier with those, We are too old for them now.  

I might just try to be satisfied, happy and grateful with what I have.

Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

Posted

The Blue Latania is the most beautiful, far nicer than the Bismarck in my own opinion. But it is very slow growing and still takes up a lot of space (about 2/3rds of the space that a Bismarck takes up). Also when it is young it is not blue, it only goes blue when it is about 6 feet tall.

Most of the others are also slow growing and not as spectacular as Bismarcks and Latanias.

Blue Coccothrinax species (Azul, Macroglossa, & Boschiana) are all very slow, rare and expensive.

Trithrinax Campestris is really nice looking but very slow.

Maybe the blue Serenoa is not slow, I don't know...

Perhaps the best option is to just buy a little Bismarck, keep the leaves cut back so only the vertical ones remain, and when it gets too big cut it out and replace with another small one. This may sound ridiculous, but they are relatively cheap and fast growing.

Or maybe you just keep it in a pot so it can't get so big?

 

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