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Recommendations for Full Sun Palm

ChrisJordanDDS

By ChrisJordanDDS
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ChrisJordanDDS

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I have a vacant spot in my garden that I'd like some suggestions for.  I initially put a 5 gallon A. myolensis triple in the spot right behind the yellow bromeliad, but it burned up this summer.  

My criteria:

1.) I want something "showy" to accompany the Foxy Lady.  

2.) Needs to tolerate FULL SUN in Orange County, California.  I'm about 10 miles inland, this spot takes full sun all day long during the summer and temperatures can get over 100 degrees during heat waves.

3.) I want it to max out at about the same height as the Foxy Lady does

4.) I want something that I don't already have (My current garden has D. lutescens, D. leptocheilos, H. forsteriana, A. cunninghamiana, Wodyetia bifurcata, Chamaedorea plumosa, Beccariophoenix alfredii, Dypsis baronii, Pritchardia sp.)

I've considered a Dypsis decaryi, a hybrid tri-bear, Archontophoenix maxima, a Royal Palm...  But none seem the perfect fit.  I'm curious what the serious palm addicts would recommend here... 

 

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Matt in OC Grand Master

Matt in OC

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A Teddy-tri would look fantastic with those ti plants, not to mention likely do great. But it's hard for me to tell how much space you have between that spot and the Foxy Lady. Looking good!

John Case Grand Master

John Case

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Bismarckia nobilis....

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

Matt in OC Grand Master

Matt in OC

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How about a Dypsis lanceolata or mahajanga/madagascarensis type?

ChrisJordanDDS Enthusiast

ChrisJordanDDS

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A Teddy-tri would look fantastic with those ti plants, not to mention likely do great. But it's hard for me to tell how much space you have between that spot and the Foxy Lady. Looking good!

This is the palm I keep coming back to, Matt.  I agree that a Teddy-tri would look cool there.  I like the color and the sun hardiness.  My only problem is that I can't find any for sale!  I'd like at least a 15 gallon size, because I'm impatient B)

 

Know anyone with some teddy-tris for sale?

Briank Mentor

Briank

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This Is Pretty Simple RIddle! LOL.. Can Handle Full Sun, Will not burn up, will not outgrow foxy lady............. HMMMMMMM BISMARKIA NOBLIS!!!!! Glad I could help!

 

BRian

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Briank Mentor

Briank

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If your staying with Pennate Palms, Maybe a Rhoplaostylis Oceana? The Roystonea Regia would make quite an impact, but definitely will get bigger than your Foxy. 

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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Bismarckia. They love heat and sun and are supremely eye catching. Palmate palms deserve love too. A palette of all pinnate palms makes for a blah garden.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Mohsen Grand Master

Mohsen

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Bizzie is doing fine in my full sun from home garden but  my  dypsis decaryi a bit burnt in full sun but I hope will be doing fine from now as it was not accomodate to full sun when I planted it ...

Briank Mentor

Briank

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Was thinking again,  and still think Bismarkia is the choice.  Another option is some sort of Fan Palm.  Livistona Netida?? Need Blue, and Fan Palm.  Thus I would go Bismarkia.  2nd Choice is L Netida.  O it looks like you don't have Dypsis Pembana!.  It is one if not the most Sun Tolerent Dypsis ! Plant 2! 

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Just1MorePalm

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Dypsis Plumosa...Will not outgrow or outshine the Foxy Lady and will thrive in the conditions you listed...

 

Good luck finding your corner stone...It never ends...Just one more...

 

 

Pando Grand Master

Pando

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Perhaps a nice Dypsis decipiens would looks good there. It's slow but would complement the Foxy quite nicely with its light trunk and white crownshaft.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Hello, Doctor, good to meet you!

You have come to the right place. (You're also invited to the PSSC meeting, in Palm Desert, even if you aren't a PSSC member) http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/47481-palm-society-of-southern-california-november-meeting/

Bizzies are great, though they take up a lot of horizontal space, which you appear to have.

Parajube sunkha is also good, coconutty looking, green / silver (PM for availability possibilities)

Or

Compromise and make room for all the suggestions.

 

 

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Hilo Jason Grand Master

Hilo Jason

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I also think that the Teddy x Triangle is a great idea.  They grow fast so even if you could get your hands on a 5 gallon sized plant it would be a monster very soon.  Another personal favorite of mine that is easier to find is Kentiopsis Oliviformis.  They take full sun for me in Fallbrook, so I know they could for you in Orange County.  Upright, dark green crownshaft.  Such a great palm that isn't used enough in So Cal in my opinion.  

ChrisJordanDDS Enthusiast

ChrisJordanDDS

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Thanks for the opinions!  This is fun :D

Although I can appreciate the unique appearance of a silver fan palm like a Bizzie, I just don't like them that much.  Especially at a central point in my yard.  Does that make me a bad person?  ;)

I keep coming back to the Tri-Bear hybrid.  I think that its unique enough and hardy enough to meet my criteria, and I just like the way it looks.  That said, there seems to be quite a bit of variability in its appearance, but those that I've seen which look more "Bear" and less "Tri" in appearance (greener fronds, more reddish coloration in the crown) are just pretty.  Still a problem finding one though... anybody know a guy?

Some of the other Dypsis species mentioned are also interesting, but it seems that many are pretty slow growing and I'd want something to somewhat balance out the foxy lady. I've heard that D. plumosa is pretty sun hardy, but it seems that it would be too small and wispy to balance out the Foxy Lady.  Also (not sure if you can see in the photos) there are two clumps of D. baronii already.  One behind the Foxy lady and one right behind the spot in question, closer to the pool fencing.  So the D. baronii might get lost a bit if another Dypsis like D. plumosa was planted right next to it.

Kentiopsis oliviformis is another beauty...

 

Decisions, decisions...

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Not much will balance the foxy lady at this late stage.

800 pound gorilla is too big?

(Parajube tor tor)

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PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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Dave, love that Tor-Tor. Can't grow it. Rats.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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It loves me, too.

Complicated . . . . :)

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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sashaeffer Veteran

sashaeffer

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Try Seabreeze Nurseries in FL for your TriBear.

I have a small TriBear from Seabreeze, while it's kept indoors now I must say it's one tough palm. Had it outside last year and some animal ate all the fronds right down to the crown.. I was NOT happy, as other more common palms around it went untouched. But, it was a tough one and shortly a new spear emerged and today looks like a reap palm, although still small but picking up speed. They aren't cheap....

Pete in Paradise Hills Proficient

Pete in Paradise Hills

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If you want a tribear that is more bear than triangle just  go with a teddy bear. It would look great as a complement to your foxy lady and is a better looking palm tjhan a tribear in my opinion. 

Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

Ben in Norcal Grand Master

Ben in Norcal

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If you want a tribear that is more bear than triangle just  go with a teddy bear. It would look great as a complement to your foxy lady and is a better looking palm tjhan a tribear in my opinion. 

Not sure of OP's climate, but won't be as cold hardy...

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Chris (and everyone) if you're ever up in the north country of OC, gimme a PM or call me at 323-481-5071 and I can show you my garden. It might be instructive. Of fun. Maybe both.

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