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Chambeyronia Macrocarpa and Hookeri in San Diego

gvidal14

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I just wanted to ask for feedback on anyone successfully growing these beauties. I live in East Chula Vista about 8 miles from the coast. I am interested in buying both but need to know if they will take full sun. Thanks in advance

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The one's I'm looking at are decent size. The Macrocarpa have about 1.5 feet of trunk already and the hookeri I am looking at has almost 2 feet of trunk.

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I have several of both varieties up here in the Bay Area and the ones in full shade are much nicer looking than any of the ones I have that are even in partial sun and I'm in a slightly cooler, probably more humid climate than Chula Vista.

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I grow them in full sun in South Florida. They get very tall in the long run and always are looking for more sun. I have seen them with 25' of trunk with heads above all the other plants around. For sure if they are in the shade as young plants its takes years to adjust them to the sun.

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I just wanted to ask for feedback on anyone successfully growing these beauties. I live in East Chula Vista about 8 miles from the coast. I am interested in buying both but need to know if they will take full sun. Thanks in advance

I'm 4 miles from the coast and my macrocarpa 5g, placed in the shade, burned badly from reflected heat since it's at the bottom of a slope. Plant yours in the shade, don't even think about full sun.

Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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They will grow in full sun in SD County. Mine is looking very nice with about 2.5 ft of trunk in full sun in San Marcos.

gvidal14 Enthusiast

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Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help and feeling instantly welcome to the forum.

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My neighbor across the street from me has a hookeri I sold him. Been in the ground for about 3 years, maybe a bit more than that. I would say it is just now coming into it's own. So 3 plus years to acclimate to full sun(and no supplimental irrigation), here in South Florida.

Stevetoad Grand Master

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they will take full sun in time. thing is they only put out 3 leaves a year so they take a long time to get use to it. cardiffpalmnut has some monsters at his house.

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

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Dr. George Mentor

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Granted this is Hawaii, never below 50oF, 2 miles from the ocean - but its about as full sun as it gets - gmp

2009 (planted 5 gal)

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2013 (4.5 yrs later)

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Josh-O Grand Master

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Gustavo, You need to plant them in filtered sun when they are small or have just come out of a green house.

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

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John Case Grand Master

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Shade in NorCal, but tremendous results!

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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This is a hookeri in Florida. Shaded when young for sure but if it had been sprouted in full sun it would not have needed the shade so much. If you buy any palm that WAS in the shade and put it in the sun guess what happens?

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Josh-O Grand Master

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Ken, I just picked my mouth up off the ground :drool:

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Shade is best when Chambeys are small.

BUT, if you water them enough and don't get them reflected heat, they will take sun, though as the others above noted, they won't have that perfect deep green look like they will in the shade.

The specimen pictured below is in full sun about 20 miles from the ocean in OC. That red leaf is about 7 feet long.

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This is a hookeri in Florida. Shaded when young for sure but if it had been sprouted in full sun it would not have needed the shade so much. If you buy any palm that WAS in the shade and put it in the sun guess what happens?

I know, I know! pick me! They shrink for about a year and either they die or finally begin to acclimate, depending on the watering regiment.

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I'm acclimating my 5g hookeri for sun. It is currently taking 3-4 hours easily and seems to love it (92F here today!), but I'm probably not going to push my luck and leave it in full sun during summer all day long. A few hours a day it seems to take it just fine.

Oh, and this hookeri hasn't thrown a red leaf yet! Could be a rarity.... ;P

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Hello Gustavo, and welcome to PalmTalk! :) Your Chambeyronia plans will work best with at least partial shade. Some people rig up shadecloth overhead for a temporary fix, if nothing else is available.

Here is a shot of my 14 Chambeyronia, half of them macrocarpa, and half macrocarpa var. hookeri in full East Hawaii sun -- which is sort of cheating because of the frequent cloud cover and constant humidity -- just to feed your nascent addiction... :mrlooney:

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Wow. Absolutely stunning. It seems like the consensus is keep them shaded or filtered when young. The hookeri is a 25 gallon. Pretty decent size already. I'm thinking full sun seems good. I also ran some Google maps. Direct shot seems to be about 5 miles in from San Diego bay.

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i have 4 chambey's in full sun ranging in size from 1x small 5gal plant to 3x 15gal plants and 1 in filtered sun and they're all doing fine. i'm not patient enough to acclimate slowly so i throw them right into the ground in full sun and they're turning out okay. 2 of the 15gals came from the same batch and both were real stretched out, the one planted first has normal sun fronds now and the one i planted 8 months ago is finally having shorter newer fronds.

i'm about 4-5miles from the coast

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Wow. Absolutely stunning. It seems like the consensus is keep them shaded or filtered when young. The hookeri is a 25 gallon. Pretty decent size already. I'm thinking full sun seems good. I also ran some Google maps. Direct shot seems to be about 5 miles in from San Diego bay.

Gustavo, Beware. If your 25 gallon was shade grown to that size, it's still going to be shocked if you plant it in full sun. It would likely look ratty until it grew a new set of sun acclimated fronds. Knowing how long that takes in CA, you may not want to risk it. It's up to you.

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MattyB Grand Master

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They'll do fine in full sun after an acclimation period. The farther inland you are the more water they'll require to look good. They love water and will tolerate clay soils.

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They'll do fine in full sun after an acclimation period. The farther inland you are the more water they'll require to look good. They love water and will tolerate clay soils.

from all the research i did in terms of where to plant mine that's exactly what i gathered. i plant them in the same planter with archontophoenix and some rhopalostylis species so i can just flood out the planters if i wanted or give them an extra cycle on drip

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They'll do fine in full sun after an acclimation period. The farther inland you are the more water they'll require to look good. They love water and will tolerate clay soils.

from all the research i did in terms of where to plant mine that's exactly what i gathered. i plant them in the same planter with archontophoenix and some rhopalostylis species so i can just flood out the planters if i wanted or give them an extra cycle on drip

Mucha aqua esta buena!

Plenty of mulch, too. Hard to drown these things though I suppose it's possible if it's actually a swamp.

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They'll do fine in full sun after an acclimation period. The farther inland you are the more water they'll require to look good. They love water and will tolerate clay soils.

from all the research i did in terms of where to plant mine that's exactly what i gathered. i plant them in the same planter with archontophoenix and some rhopalostylis species so i can just flood out the planters if i wanted or give them an extra cycle on drip

Mucha aqua esta buena!

Plenty of mulch, too. Hard to drown these things though I suppose it's possible if it's actually a swamp.

Much agua for sure. Muy Mucha agua. Lol. I'll post results obviously way way later. Haha. Thanks for all the input.

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Here is one of my macrocarpas, almost 1 year to date in the ground. Full sun planted, getting full blown sun from about 9am until 4ish. Doing great.

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Almost exactly one year after. Taken this morning.

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Doing super, and that should be a nice location for it in the garden - gmp

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Hahaha. Now, let's see how the new hookeri receives it's new home.

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Post #18 looks suspiciously like the infamous "Garden of DOOM " ! :mrlooney:

San Francisco, California

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Moose Grand Master

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they will take full sun in time. thing is they only put out 3 leaves a year so they take a long time to get use to it. cardiffpalmnut has some monsters at his house.

where are the pics of Bill's palms?

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Stevetoad Grand Master

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they will take full sun in time. thing is they only put out 3 leaves a year so they take a long time to get use to it. cardiffpalmnut has some monsters at his house.

where are the pics of Bill's palms?

I don't have any shots of his but they are monsters. Mine just popped. Love these things.

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

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On 2/18/2015 at 1:32 PM, gvidal14 said:

Almost exactly one year after. Taken this morning.

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Got an updated 2024 pic to share?

Plum curious on this palm. Thanks to Tracy here on the board. :)

The spot I'm looking at is also full-sun, south-facing. Though under a Queen which would provide partial shade from time to time.

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1 hour ago, Christopher Dillman said:

The spot I'm looking at is also full-sun, south-facing. Though under a Queen which would provide partial shade from time to time.

Full sun here on the coast will be perfect for C. hookeri, but you may want to consider giving it space as queens don't play well with nearby palms, plus "flamethrowers" end up with reasonably wide crowns when grown properly. Best of luck! 

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