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15 yrs, and another Copernicia gets planted

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15 yrs ago, yes 15 yrs ago, our now moving Copernicia baileyana was planted at the size our smaller fallaensis that "finally" has been planted with the great help of Shakira after a good day at Byron beach today, with Fallaensis being a fast grower for Copernicia I hope its the size of Bailey in 7 yrs. :) Pete

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If that Falla is even the same size in 15 years I will be surprised. I hear it is faster but I am not sold.

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If that Falla is even the same size in 15 years I will be surprised. I hear it is faster but I am not sold.

Fair dinkum Ken, so my wishful thinking is wishful dreaming ? :)

Below is 1 of the other Fallaensis that is going inground today and its in a 5ltr pot at base of Bailey.

Also, heres Genes in Feb which he grew from seed that "germinated" in 2008, ( 6yrs) his growth is Phenomenal being so close to the equator so at best I would be happy with half the growth rate, since mine is already 4yrs old I expect "very good" growth from here on.

A "very interesting trial" that I will update yearly here on PT to share the progression.

Pete :)

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Struth, I love gene's pete. Its a bell ringer.

Hopefully in that deep volcanic soil yours will charge ahead. I planted a fallaensis 2 years ago which has SLOWLY put out maybe 2 new leaves (faster than my Dypsis sp. dark mealy bug, but that's another story).

Going on advice from ptalk regarding palms that like fairly alkaline soils, im adding some dolomite soon to speed up growth. Have you thought about a little crushed concrete or dolomite yourself? I know it's working wonders on some of your new cal stuff.

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Struth, I love gene's pete. Its a bell ringer.

Hopefully in that deep volcanic soil yours will charge ahead. I planted a fallaensis 2 years ago which has SLOWLY put out maybe 2 new leaves (faster than my Dypsis sp. dark mealy bug, but that's another story).

Going on advice from ptalk regarding palms that like fairly alkaline soils, im adding some dolomite soon to speed up growth. Have you thought about a little crushed concrete or dolomite yourself? I know it's working wonders on some of your new cal stuff.

Genes is a bell ringer/ball tearer, very inspiring, pls post some update pics Gene.

Yes Stuart, I do add Dolomite/Lime and I put pieces of concrete into the "deep hole" of free draining soil when planting a Copernicia here in our low Ph soil, a deep hole is very beneficial and so is "plenty" of H20.

Pete :)

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If that Falla is even the same size in 15 years I will be surprised. I hear it is faster but I am not sold.

Ken, since our Bailey was of the size of this pic below Fallaensis in a 5ltr when planted 15 yrs ago, how could this Fallaensis not be "Larger" in 15 yrs since they are faster growers ?

The pictured "inground" Falla is only 2 leaves behind its sibling

Pete :)

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Ok - I'll chime in with my experience with C. Fallaensis.

I have a blog where I periodically have Garden Update Posts-- basically I take update photographs of the noteworthy plants and sections of our gardens.

I used to post every six months-- but it got to be too much of a chore so i haven't done an update in a while.

I will post links to all the Garden Updates that show my Copernicial Fallaensis-- it clearly illustrates the speed of my plant once I planted it.

This is post was the start of the Garden Updates:

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/2010/01/garden-update.html

The C. Fallaensis is in the 3rd from the last photo

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

This is the Garden Update half a year later:

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/2010/06/garden-update-year-05.html

There is also a photo of my C. Baileyana somewhere in there. Note that it is a much older plant than the C. Fallaensis

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Year 1 update:

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/2011/01/garden-update-year-1-part-3-cuban-palms.html

This post was specifically on Cuban Palms -- both C. Baileyana and Fallaensis are here too

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Year 2.5:

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/2012/06/garden-update-year-25-couple-more.html

You can clearly see the "jump in size" of each new leaf on the C. Fallaensis

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Year 3 update:

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/2013/01/garden-update-year-3-copernicia.html

On this update I took an actual measurement on the F. Fallaensis' height

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Update 3.5 years after:

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/2013/06/garden-update-year-35-islands-1-of-2.html

This was the Last Update I made, which was back in June 2013.

The very first Garden Update was April 2010

At that point the C. fallaensis was about 1.5 to 2 feet tall and by the end of the update it was at 12 feet.

This was also the time where discussions on Palmtalk prompted me to check my records to see when I germinated them from seeds and I was surprised to find that it was only 4 years from that point in time.

C. Fallaensis is definitely NOT slow.

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Gene, if you don't mind me asking, do you know your ph levels?

Sorry -- I don't know my ph levels-- never tested it.

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

This is my Copernicia fallaensis today. They are getting a bit crowded

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The over all height by my estimate is about 18 feet.

Not sure I can call this a "trunk" but the base seems to be thickening up

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

The latest leaves are "fuller" now

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

The biggest issue for me at this point is the leaf damage after strong storms.

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Gene I love your garden :)

I'm envious of any and all Fallaence! One day!

Wow!

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Gene, thanks very much for all the old pics with growth info and of course your New pics, your growth is "Extraordinary".

Beautiful palms.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

killer pic's Gene!! Thanks for sharing!!

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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very nice :greenthumb:

Very nice Gene! :greenthumb:

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LA | NY | OC

Great palms you are capable of growing They look flawless Thanks for taking the time to do updates cheers

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