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Hey guys. Sorry for the stupid question, but is this a Satakentia or some type of Archontophoenix or something else? It's in Venice, Florida.

Thanks in advance :)

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Hi naraj, it looks like a royal to me (Roystonea regia).

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

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Thanks for the replies. I'm positive it's not a Roystonia, but what seems strange to me is it seems about 50% larger than a typical Archontophoenix alexandrae from Florida. Could it just be a really robust alexandrae, or some other Archontophoenix (or Satakentia)?

It is Archontophoenix alexandrae, as you can see the silver undersides of the fronds.

Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida.

It is Archontophoenix alexandrae, as you can see the silver undersides of the fronds.

A nice one at that.

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

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I guess it is just a healthy Archontophoenix after all. Thanks for the help, guys :)

I haven't seen a Satakentia with such long spaces between leaf scars. This is such a healthy-looking specimen that there should be an inflorescence soon. Unfortunately, Archontophoenix inflorescences are too easy to cut off...

A. tuckeri leaves can be silvery on the underside, but they don't get so long. That's quite a crown.

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

Jason, I agree about that being A. alexandrae. Looks a lot like the Alex's that have been planted all over Palmer Ranch a few years ago. Technically this could also be an A. maxima. Until it flowers there is no sure way to tell.

A. tuckeri leaves can be silvery on the underside

Agree. A. cunninghamiana is the only Archo that doesn't have silvery undersides.

Quite a short petiole and very bulky overall, maybe it is A.maxima.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

looks like A maxima to me too.

Located on Vanua Levu near Savusavu (16degrees South) Elevation from sealevel to 30meters with average annual rainfall of 2800mm (110in) with temperature from 18 to 34C (65 to 92F).

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Okay, upon further reflection (and searching pics online), I'm positive it is an Archontophoenix and also positive it's not alexandrae. I think it's an Archontophoenix cunninghamiana, but it could be an A. maxima or A. tuckeri just because I'm not really familiar with how they look different than A. cunninghamiana. Can anyone else confirm tit's an A. cunninghamiana and not maxima or tuckeri?

Are the undersides silver? I must be going blind, but they look green to me. If I'm not blind, then it has to be A. cunninghamiana. If I am, then A maxima gets my vote, as the petioles are quite stubby.

Jason, where is this palm? I may try to swing by and examine it. I still think it's a well fertilized A. alex

The leaves don't look silvery to me--just some blur from the lens, I think. A. tuckeri has relatively short leaves and doesn't hold too many of them. I need to go to the back yard for a leaf count. My A. cunninghamiana is sick, so I can't use it for comparisons. Here's my baby A. maxima showing the petioles. It was propagated at Leu Gardens in Orlando, so identity is reliable.

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Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

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Thanks for the opinions. @ Alex: It's in front of the Motel 6 at 281 US Highway 41 Bypass N, Venice, Sarasota County, Florida 34285. You can see it in Google street view, too. I'm trying to figure out which Archontophoenix it is because I really like it and want one, LOL. I think I remember there being some A. alaxandraes in the same parking lot, along with various other palms, but there doesn't seem to be any 'pattern' to the plantings, so maybe the landscapers just bought a couple at the nursery and randomly planted them. The leaflets do look very 'perfect/symmetrical' like A. alexandrae, but the the fronds and crown are just too big IMO. The crown almost looks like a coconut. It may just be well-fertilized, but I kinda doubt it. I've seen well-fertilized A. alexandraes before and they're pretty 'dainty' in front of this one (and the one beside it) and the fronds seem more triangular. It looks like A. cunninghamiana to me, but the petioles are short, so I guess it could be an A. maxima. I can't find any pics of A. maxima online that look like this palm, and I haven't seen enough of them in person to remember how they look. I don't mind being proven wrong though, LOL. Slightly off the subject, how risky do you think it is to plant some of these (45 gallon and/or field-grown) this time of year in this area? I'm gonna do it. :)

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By the way, just for the record, I now know that it's a plain old A. cunninghamiana, which are apparently more common around here than I thought. Thanks for all the input guys!

Thanks for the opinions. @ Alex: It's in front of the Motel 6 at 281 US Highway 41 Bypass N, Venice, Sarasota County, Florida 34285. You can see it in Google street view, too. I'm trying to figure out which Archontophoenix it is because I really like it and want one, LOL. I think I remember there being some A. alaxandraes in the same parking lot, along with various other palms, but there doesn't seem to be any 'pattern' to the plantings, so maybe the landscapers just bought a couple at the nursery and randomly planted them. The leaflets do look very 'perfect/symmetrical' like A. alexandrae, but the the fronds and crown are just too big IMO. The crown almost looks like a coconut. It may just be well-fertilized, but I kinda doubt it. I've seen well-fertilized A. alexandraes before and they're pretty 'dainty' in front of this one (and the one beside it) and the fronds seem more triangular. It looks like A. cunninghamiana to me, but the petioles are short, so I guess it could be an A. maxima. I can't find any pics of A. maxima online that look like this palm, and I haven't seen enough of them in person to remember how they look. I don't mind being proven wrong though, LOL. Slightly off the subject, how risky do you think it is to plant some of these (45 gallon and/or field-grown) this time of year in this area? I'm gonna do it. :)

They don't transplant from fields very easily. The crownshafts are have been known to break - best to get a biggin in a container,

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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