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I told the bees, "You can have all the Dypsis, Coccothrinax, Pritchardia, Butia, and Syagrus nectar you want, just remember that when I want a bit O honey.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Fantastic, it would taste amazing I bet, I can feel your buzz :) Pete

Posted

Looks good! Now you can ingest the power of the palms.

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Posted

Soooo, what does it taste like? Describe please.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Posted

Looks great! Palms produce a lot of nectar, should be great honey. The bees love palm influorescences, its by far the greatest bee densities on flowers I've ever seen.

Now as one bee keeper to another, why on earth are you destroying your frames? The point of those is to put them in a spinner to harvest honey without damaging the comb so that the bees don't have to expand energy to fill in new comb. Do your frames not have a base?

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

Keith,

It tastes great! It's definitely darker and more rich than citrus honey, but not quite as dark as avocado.

Axel,

We have a few frames marked "NF" no foundation. Like you've mentioned, they have no starter base so the comb is fresh, pure, and tender, and great for eating. We've reserved these few frames for harvesting comb. The honey/comb harvested is very small and only for our personal use so a strong hive like this one will have no problem quickly rebuilding. Our bees are wild caught, so they are africanized, to a certain extent, and much more productive than a purchased European hive.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Keith,

It tastes great! It's definitely darker and more rich than citrus honey, but not quite as dark as avocado.

Axel,

We have a few frames marked "NF" no foundation. Like you've mentioned, they have no starter base so the comb is fresh, pure, and tender. We've reserved these few frames for harvesting comb. The honey/comb harvested is very small and only for our personal use so a strong hive like this one will have no problem quickly rebuilding.

That's a smart way to go about it. I love honeycomb myself, it keeps forever whereas the extracted honey crystallizes much faster and looses flavor/potency. The only bummer is the wax, I don't like to swallow it but it's supposed to be harmless.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

The honey we harvest is a mix of everything out there. Because we are surrounded by rainforest, our honey is super dark and has a rich taste. The bees harvest all sorts of things, passion flowers, daturas, palm inflorescences, citrus, avocado, apples, stone fruit, etc.. I guess I will never know what pure palm honey tastes like from tasting our honey.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

Our honey definitely isn't pure palm honey but it's palmtalk, so hey.

I don't like to swallow the wax either. I just chew it and then spit it into one of my wife's candles.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Sweet.......

Maybe you should change your user name to Matty Bee?

Posted

Matty,

Need a 4 frame centrifuge? Have one kicking around from my bee days..

Bret

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Posted

Sweet.......

Maybe you should change your user name to Matty Bee?

:laugh2:

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

That's great Matt. Nothing like raw natural honey w/ palm pollen. I let the local beekeeper keep some of his hives here and I get honey in exchange. When the palm inflorescence comes out, they are covered in bees. Looks like there will be some palm hybrids in the future. I found out that cheap honey I have been buying from the big box stores is most likely corn syrup that they feed to the bees in large commercial farms. Cannot wait to get some of the palm honey.

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Posted

I love different honeys. So, far Tupelo and Sourwood are indeed hard to beat, but I try every different one I can get my hands on. I even tested out some Manuka seeds to see if I could grow a small crop to contribute to the honey. I really want to try a hive here, but the entry point is not cheap and with so much agriculture, and agricultural spraying nearby, I am afraid I will go through the trouble and expense only to one wind up with dead bees.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Posted

Hmm, palms & honey, I have to warn my family ASP! New obsession on the sight :yay::drool::yay::drool:

Bravo Matty

Posted

Matty,

Need a 4 frame centrifuge? Have one kicking around from my bee days..

Bret

Dude! Heck yes! I'm pming you right now.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Matt, what type of bees do you have? I've been considering experimenting with carniolan instead of the regular italian since I have so many avocados nearby.

Posted

Our bees are wild, so probably a mix of african and italian. They're a little bit aggressive, but we don't mess with them too often so we don't mind.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Not those African Killer Bees we hear about down here ?? :bemused:

Andrew,
Airlie Beach, Whitsundays

Tropical Queensland

Posted

Yes those.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Our bees are wild too. Several years ago I felled giant capulin cherries, and subsequently the hive was exposed. The hive literally got cooked in the sun and by Winter the bees were gone. By late March a wild swarm re-populated the hive, and it's been a strong healthy hive ever since. Last year the hive swarmed at least a half dozen times. They are quite aggressive but we leave them alone for the most part.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

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