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Wish me luck on a Lemur in San Diego, any bets?

BS Man about Palms
BS Man about Palms
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Oh, and William? Since I gave up bromeliads for Lent the offer now is you can have the pick-o-the-litter of my new passion---geraniums!

Lent is over, the bromeliads are on the come back ... :greenthumb:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Oh, and William? Since I gave up bromeliads for Lent the offer now is you can have the pick-o-the-litter of my new passion---geraniums!

Who are you and what have you done with the Gonz???

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

I know and into animals, too, now.

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    I spied a new spear coming out a day ago... Not as fast as Jim's, but Steady I hope. I think i decided where to plant another out front also.. :)

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    Good to know, Bill. The deep red spears on these Lemurs is really pretty isn't it?

    Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

    zone 10a/9b

    sunset zone 16

    300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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    It sure is! I hope it trunks.......someday. :innocent:

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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    So it looks like it did this in 6-7 weeks! Wow, better than I thought...I suspect another 4-6 weeks till the next spear starts??

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    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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    Well, the new spear is over 3" or so.. Looks like its growing pretty well! I think this unusually warm summer is helping.. Yay!

     

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    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    Looking good there Bill!

    Not sure if we killed mine yet...

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    Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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    Well, the new spear is over 3" or so.. Looks like its growing pretty well! I think this unusually warm summer is helping.. Yay!

     

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    Why have you planted it so deep? Its germination is adjacent-ligular, so it would be better imo to plant the stem base even to the surface.

    My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

    Not sure if we killed mine yet...

    Oh please don’t! :crying:

    My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums
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    Daryl, thats both a pic I never wanted to see, yet am happy to see... :)

     

    Pal, it started a bit higher, it continues to sink... I'm not worried... much, yet.

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    Pal, this species pull its self down. totally normal

     

    awesome to see that Lemur again Bill.

     

    Daryl,

    keep us posted on it's progress

    Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

    Sunset zone 24

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    Pal, this species pull its self down. totally normal

    Like a Sabal? That’s an interesting info … :hmm:

    My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

    They certainly pull themselves down...in my pic you can see the fibrous leafbases...these were all totally underground...this palm had no roots in the top 400mm of soil...they started at the bottom of the hole (and there were not many roots...thinking the palm stabilised itself by pulling itself deep down into the ground, roots and all. It had even grown  a small heel as well...

    Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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    Pal, this species pull its self down. totally normal

    Like a Sabal? That’s an interesting info … :hmm:

    exactly 

    Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

    Sunset zone 24

    To echo what some others have said.

    I planted two small ones as some of my first palms when I moved to Hawaii 13 yr ago. After about 8 years I gave up on them - as they were still small, but healthy. I don't think they liked the mostly sunny place where I planted them. I saw others in pots become available that were so much larger, so I went with those.

    I planned on saving them in pots. But upon digging them up, the growing point of one was close to 2 feet underground. The other well over a foot. I was definitely taken by surprise - and mangled them both.

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    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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    Are you sure it's not 'Resting' Bill?  

    So didn't like winter?  :crying:

     

     

    Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

    funny stuff bill :floor:

    Next will be a man eating rabbit? :blink:

    Cheers...

    Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

    Sunset zone 24
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    Well, funny thing, I think its just a larger or Macro version of what killed them off in my greenhouse actually. Early Jan., late Dec, I for sure had some very cold mornings with frost on the roofs of homes around me. I was worried then, but it looked fine as it was juuust starting to open its last spear. But we starting having warm weather just a few weeks later with one or two cool nights first of Feb. BUT with in a week.. HADES IN WINTER happened and that's what I think did it, not the cold. After 3-4 mid 80F days, I watered the yard which I rarely do in the winter as MORE 80's to near 90F was due also! Well, two days after watering I came home to notice that dull brown/green leaf of death/baking on the oldest leaf. Then the next two the next day... but the spear had a green tint to it. a week later I realized it had shriveled up too.. :bemused::unsure::evil:  My theory was not the cold entirely, but that the ground was still cold/cool from winter that it was in effective hibernation so the roots could not uptake enough water to keep the leaves hydrated coupled with (for me) breaking my rule to never or rarely, if ever water in winter... possibly induced fungal onset too. I still have some in pots in the house left that I will try, but I try a little more shade and/or misters next time.

     

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    OUCH!

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    3 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

    Well, funny thing, I think its just a larger or Macro version of what killed them off in my greenhouse actually. Early Jan., late Dec, I for sure had some very cold mornings with frost on the roofs of homes around me. I was worried then, but it looked fine as it was juuust starting to open its last spear. But we starting having warm weather just a few weeks later with one or two cool nights first of Feb. BUT with in a week.. HADES IN WINTER happened and that's what I think did it, not the cold. After 3-4 mid 80F days, I watered the yard which I rarely do in the winter as MORE 80's to near 90F was due also! Well, two days after watering I came home to notice that dull brown/green leaf of death/baking on the oldest leaf. Then the next two the next day... but the spear had a green tint to it. a week later I realized it had shriveled up too.. :bemused::unsure::evil:  My theory was not the cold entirely, but that the ground was still cold/cool from winter that it was in effective hibernation so the roots could not uptake enough water to keep the leaves hydrated coupled with (for me) breaking my rule to never or rarely, if ever water in winter... possibly induced fungal onset too. I still have some in pots in the house left that I will try, but I try a little more shade and/or misters next time.

     

    Mine died last August. They just aren't meant for our climate.

    Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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    Well, gotta hand it to you guys for perseverance in spite of the odds. 

    Geeze Daryl, that Lemur was larger than I thought. Must have been heavier than hell. Good luck!

    Miine is in such rocky soil it would NEVER survive if I were to dig it up.

    Tim

    Tim

    Hilo, Hawaii

    I just ripped mine out of the ground and threw it in the trash. It has been a slow but steady grower this last few but this winter heat wave did mine in also.

    It's just not a palm that will survive here even in our best micro climates unfortunately.

    Looks like I need to but some property in Hawaii to get one to grow :) 

    Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

    Sunset zone 24
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    Funny thing, I'm still not convinced they won't grow here.. IF all is right.. James is yours still alive?

     

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    Phils was almost 6ft before a rhopie leaf fell on it and killed it. It wasn't weather related

    San Marcos CA

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