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Recommendations on Shade Percentage for Shade Cloth

DoomsDave

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Hello, everyone:

I'm going to bite the bullet and remove the last standing Brazilian Pepper tree in my backyard, which provides shade for my collection of potted shade palms. I don't know for sure, but I fear rot at the base, caused at least in part by the water the palms underneath it receive. The other "half" of that same tree fell down earlier this year, and, if it's got to go, I want to have control over the process.

I'm going to build a shade structure, and I'd appreciate thoughts as to what percentage shade cloth I should use. The tree provides dense shade, and I'm inclined to go with heavier shade cloth, knitted, of course. I've seen it has high as 90% shade.

Thoughts about the best construction techniques are also sought.

Pros, cons, experiences, anyone?

Thanks for your thoughts.

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My greenhouse is 50% with a tree for afternoon shade. A few shade loving palms like some variegated rhapis would like more shade. Id go with %60 or %70.

MattyB Grand Master

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I always think that brighter is better. I'd say 50% is probably a happy medium.

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The Silent Seed Grand Master

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How do you actually figure out the percentage? I mean; if I go out in my backyard under a tree, how do I know what percentage that shade is? (Light meter?)

During the summer, most of my plants go out in the yard, and certain areas could be much more useful, with a shade cloth, so I'll be interested in hearing what others have to say.

Is 50% a happy medium for "most" plants, including plants that prefer shade overall? (I'm not going to worry about the plants that need more sun - those can simply be put out in the sun :)

Has anyone had issues with birds getting entangled in them? I'm thinking of running one between several trees overhead, outside. How long do they last?

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  On 6/17/2014 at 4:02 AM, MattyB said:

I always think that brighter is better. I'd say 50% is probably a happy medium.

I agree with MattyB :)

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  On 6/17/2014 at 8:04 AM, Pedro 65 said:

  On 6/17/2014 at 4:02 AM, MattyB said:

I always think that brighter is better. I'd say 50% is probably a happy medium.

I agree with MattyB :)

Thanks everyone for your input, more is always welcome!

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I agree with Matty, I think I learned my lesson this year, trying to keep every leaf dark green with no yellow, but it shouldn't be a problem there where it doesn't pour every other day, but Bill (BS man) tried to tell me about exactly what Matty and Pete are talking about, but I wouldn't listen and thought I could get away with heavily filtered light, by preventative spraying, and when the temps dropped and it poured 4.95 inches of rain in 1 day, not counting all the other cold rainy days, all the fungicide did was weaken them, and their only salvation would have been enough light, I ignored his previous advise, and I paid the price, and that's how the soil born fungi, that is always there in the yard (you can smell it pulling weeds in the side yard downhill from the septic system) got it's chance to kick my Ass, (so I traded it for a horse of course), Ed p.s. ignore the last ten words

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  On 6/17/2014 at 7:19 PM, edric said:

I agree with Matty, I think I learned my lesson this year, trying to keep every leaf dark green with no yellow, but it shouldn't be a problem there where it doesn't pour every other day, but Bill (BS man) tried to tell me about exactly what Matty and Pete are talking about, but I wouldn't listen and thought I could get away with heavily filtered light, by preventative spraying, and when the temps dropped and it poured 4.95 inches of rain in 1 day, not counting all the other cold rainy days, all the fungicide did was weaken them, and their only salvation would have been enough light, I ignored his previous advise, and that's how the soil born fungi, that is always there in the yard (you can smell it pulling weeds in the side yard downhill from the septic system) got it's chance to kick my Ass, (so I traded it for a horse of course), Ed p.s. ignore the last ten words

So you used really heavy shade cloth and ended up getting fungus?

On the palms, I mean . . .

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  On 6/17/2014 at 7:51 PM, DoomsDave said:

  On 6/17/2014 at 7:19 PM, edric said:

I agree with Matty, I think I learned my lesson this year, trying to keep every leaf dark green with no yellow, but it shouldn't be a problem there where it doesn't pour every other day, but Bill (BS man) tried to tell me about exactly what Matty and Pete are talking about, but I wouldn't listen and thought I could get away with heavily filtered light, by preventative spraying, and when the temps dropped and it poured 4.95 inches of rain in 1 day, not counting all the other cold rainy days, all the fungicide did was weaken them, and their only salvation would have been enough light, I ignored his previous advise, and that's how the soil born fungi, that is always there in the yard (you can smell it pulling weeds in the side yard downhill from the septic system) got it's chance to kick my Ass, (so I traded it for a horse of course), Ed p.s. ignore the last ten words

So you used really heavy shade cloth and ended up getting fungus?

On the palms, I mean . . .

Hi Dave, not shade cloth, but heavily filtered light from the dense oak cover, when I could have frantically moved them around, like I do in the summer to avoid the bright hot spots, the point being too much filtered light for dypsis in pots, sitting on the ground, but heavily filtered light none the less, Ed

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