Jim - yeah in Fallbrook I had mine in deep shade which would protect it from the hot and dry winds.  But also seemed to slow the growth quite a bit.  Always looked good, but very slow in shade.  

11 hours ago, Dan OKeeffe said:

Thanks for the updates. I’m an outlier with a cool SF garden. Full sun heat rarely gets to 75F. I trying to decide it I go with the warmest garden spot with Full sun or shade for my C Nucele and Burritiokentia.   

Thanks

I would think that the warm / sunny spot in your garden would be great for this palm.  Since you don't get real hot, I think it will take the sun just fine and will make it grow much faster than it would in shade.  

here is Jeff’s tall one, surely the oldest on the property unless im forgetting one

Edited May 26, 20188 yr by knell

A few months ago, I cut out a bunch of gingers that were crowding and shading mine. My Cyphophoenix nucele’s leaves have paid the price with some pretty decent burn on the old ones. But so far the growth hasn’t slowed at all and even seems to have picked up. It’s in a half day of sun. We’ll see how it fares this summer. 

21 hours ago, Dan OKeeffe said:

Thanks for the updates. I’m an outlier with a cool SF garden. Full sun heat rarely gets to 75F. I trying to decide it I go with the warmest garden spot with Full sun or shade for my C Nucele and Burritiokentia.   

Thanks

Dan, They're both worth a try in the sun since your climate is so cool. Acclimate carefully. I have two Burretiokentia hapala. The one in full shade is growing very well and reasonably fast. The one that receives some afternoon sun burns a bit in warmer weather even though it's been in that location for three years. My C. nucele are both in deep shade so I don't have experience with them in any sort of sun exposure. They do continue growing in the winter though so maybe experiment with one in the shade and one in partial sun. 

19 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

Jim - yeah in Fallbrook I had mine in deep shade which would protect it from the hot and dry winds.  But also seemed to slow the growth quite a bit.  Always looked good, but very slow in shade.  

They are deep green in the shade for me.....A few of mine may start to get some sun this year, maybe they will speed up 

Here's one of mine with a bit over two years progress. Deep shade most of the day and it seems to like it. Last picture is two years ago. First two pictures today. Wallickia desiflora to its right is competing a bit.

Edited May 26, 20188 yr by Jim in Los Altos

21 hours ago, knell said:

here is Jeff’s tall one, surely the oldest on the property unless im forgetting one

Holy Cow, that's quite a specimen. I've probably walked by it several times and never realized it. 

Tim

 

2 hours ago, realarch said:

Holy Cow, that's quite a specimen. I've probably walked by it several times and never realized it. 

Tim

 

Same here Tim! 

Mike - maybe you can post a picture of the nice double planting that's close to the parking area?  

Tim/Jason, i was here for a few months before i first noticed it, and have forgotten and remembered it several times since haha, but these days its one of those palms ill take time to stare at

here is the double you mentioned 

So nice, thanks for posting that! 

Amazing, these two are real beauties. Looking at my three leaves seedling I'm wondering if I will ever see it trunking as a potted plant.

Eckhard

Edited May 27, 20188 yr by Palmensammler

Somewhat surprised to report that the sun has so far done no more damage. In fact, it has seemed to enjoy it (so far!). The new leaf opened a few days ago and it's probably a bit over 7' tall.

Looking good Matt, that new leaf is outstanding.

Tim

I don't like mine much. It is quite fast but it can't handle the wind and always looks ratty.

The Cypho elegans and the Kentiopsis oli to the left and right of it always look much better.

But it does have an interesting trunk, not all shiny green but with a very persistent white stuff on it.

I only keep it because it will be good to sling a hammock between it and the foxtail out of shot behind me.  :-)  

Irma did mine in.  Had to stake it after the hurricane but even with the babying it croaked.  Was a nice steady grower.  Had morning sun until noon.  Not a burn.

Mine is still tiny at only 40cm but it happily survived months of heat, a few days over 40c and now winter is here (oh boy is winter here) it took a week of 3c nights and even a couple of 0c without a murmer. I wish I had planted some of these years ago but they were impossible to find until recent times.

Just a quick update. That older leaf did indeed get fried to a crisp. Surprisingly the new leaf is perfect (even through the 100 degrees we had a month and a half ago). And growth has sped up to the point that a large new leaf opened. I'd say it's happy with the sun exposure at this size.

I finally made it over to San Diego Botanical Garden to check on the one there.  It was partially damaged when a large tree fell, taking out a Pritchardia and a few other things on the way.  I was hopeful their large one survived and it did.  The top portion of the Cyphophoenix nucele can be seen from the platform above it, but it's the wrong angle to get the entire trunk in, as it's down below the platform.  The culprit which damaged it when it fell, and even the Pritchardia appears to be trying to make a comeback.

Any idea what caused the tree to fall?

2 hours ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Any idea what caused the tree to fall?

Hi Jim,

The tree fell quite a while back; last winter or spring if I recall.  There are a number of trees perched on the edge of a bluff like this one was, and I think the ground got saturated.  Combine the saturated ground with high winds and things fall.  We had a large Eucalyptus fall and crush a vehicle a block away from my home last winter, and I'm about half a mile west and 2.5 miles north of the garden.  It was one of those type events.  The 3' diameter Eucalyptus looked like the one in the photo above after it went down, with roots torn out of the ground on full display.  I did notice some other tree stumps at SD Botanical gardens along the top of that bluff, which I suspect were removed as a preventative measure.