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What kind of a home would go well with a palm garden?


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I know a lot of us don't get a choice as to what house we get to start with, but if you could start from scratch, what sort of look would you go for? There are some amazing architectural things that can be done to bring about a tropical vibe even before the first palm is planted. What would it be for you? The Hawaii plantation look with a lush tropical forest? A mediterranean surrounded by beautiful bismarckia, brahea and copernicia? I spent some time looking around the net for some cool houses. Here's what I found:

Guess where this house is. Don't cheat by looking at the URL.

residential_wing_25.jpg

The tropical plantation look:

37417678.jpg

A tropical hut:

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The Bahamas beach house:

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

all houses, save the igloo

Posted

I don't agree, not all homes lend themselves well to a palm garden. However, the igloo does go well with palms:

beach-resort-igloo-house.jpg

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

I like exactly what I have. A semi tropical garden, with house décor from many areas of the world ( tropical ) from some of our travels. My wife and I wouldn't want it any differently.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

I don't agree, not all homes lend themselves well to a palm garden. However, the igloo does go well with palms:

beach-resort-igloo-house.jpg

Igloo??? That looks like something Hugh Hefner would go for.
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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

I don't agree, not all homes lend themselves well to a palm garden. However, the igloo does go well with palms:

beach-resort-igloo-house.jpg

Igloo??? That looks like something Hugh Hefner would go for.

Dean, I missed that the first time around but now that you mention it... So we now know what's on your mind. :)

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

Well that igloo resembles a certain club in Lee Road. I'm sure it's the winner after a hurricane.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Who cares what the house looks like........If you have planted the garden right you won't even see the house :)

Andrew,
Airlie Beach, Whitsundays

Tropical Queensland

Posted

the tropical plantation look is awesome!

...but here in our islands the "Ibiza style" is my choice. :)

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Posted

I like the first house. Looks like it could be one of the many homes located on the mountains surrounding the Coachella Valley. What a view that would be. I would start with copernicias and Bismarcks. And that would just be the beginning ;)

Posted

Balinese style all the way.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Balinese style all the way.

I also like the Balinese style....tho live now in a log cabin

The Palm Mahal

Hollywood Fla

Posted (edited)

This would be pretty close to what would work for me. In my dreams the home would be bridged across a canyon looking at a waterfall like this one :)post-9514-0-46574200-1396808085.jpg

Or bridged across that big gap on top of the waterfall but I think I'd rather be looking right at it :)

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Posted

That bahamas beach house is where it's at.

Posted

I know a lot of us don't get a choice as to what house we get to start with, but if you could start from scratch, what sort of look would you go for? There are some amazing architectural things that can be done to bring about a tropical vibe even before the first palm is planted. What would it be for you? The Hawaii plantation look with a lush tropical forest? A mediterranean surrounded by beautiful bismarckia, brahea and copernicia? I spent some time looking around the net for some cool houses. Here's what I found:

Guess where this house is. Don't cheat by looking at the URL.

residential_wing_25.jpg

The tropical plantation look:

A tropical hut:

The Bahamas beach house:

This one is my style all the way.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Posted

Who cares what the house looks like........If you have planted the garden right you won't even see the house :)

That would be called the DoomsDave HidaAHouse of Doom™ garden design, I believe plans for that are available on PalmTalk.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

Houses never did it for me. I don't really like being inside. When I have to work inside the house I just feel like smashing everything. I throw stuff away as often as I can. Stuff is... stuff. I wanna go simpler.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Note to self. If Matty ever comes over to see my garden don't envite him inside :) I vote for plantation

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Posted

Matt I'm with you so a minimalist Bamboo hut overlooking a waterfall out the back and the beach out front will do for me :) I don't ask for much :) all dreaming aside I'm grateful to be right where I am. However if I won the lottery, which I hardly ever play, an upgrade might be in order :)

Posted

Houses never did it for me. I don't really like being inside. When I have to work inside the house I just feel like smashing everything. I throw stuff away as often as I can. Stuff is... stuff. I wanna go simpler.

Amen brutha!

I'm in the process as well. Only I keep acquiring plants...

Posted

Houses never did it for me. I don't really like being inside. When I have to work inside the house I just feel like smashing everything. I throw stuff away as often as I can. Stuff is... stuff. I wanna go simpler.

I've got a house for you Matty.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

I would like to make an observation .

Recently there was a topic that started off re Becc "windows".

This turned into some negative comments re taxonomists & palm academics including their "attitude" to Palm Talk.

This seems a bit gratuitous to me when this topic is in a forum supposedly discussing palms in the world.

If I was an academic and looked up palm talk and saw this post I would certainly wonder at the seriousness of the forum.

Surely there is a more appropriate forum on this site for these sort of discussions?

You can't have your cake and eat it too as my mother was fond of saying

Steve

Posted

I know a lot of us don't get a choice as to what house we get to start with, but if you could start from scratch, what sort of look would you go for? There are some amazing architectural things that can be done to bring about a tropical vibe even before the first palm is planted. What would it be for you? The Hawaii plantation look with a lush tropical forest? A mediterranean surrounded by beautiful bismarckia, brahea and copernicia? I spent some time looking around the net for some cool houses. Here's what I found:

Guess where this house is. Don't cheat by looking at the URL.

residential_wing_25.jpg

The tropical plantation look:

37417678.jpg

A tropical hut:

c3880661c10dfebcde1a9155d3196c27.jpg

The Bahamas beach house:

f17694bfe8e7c3461af86515e29176f5.jpg

Alex, the Bahama beachhouse would be my choise, but that's very personal of course. About the iglo's, I must acknowledge that I love titties, but I don't want to live in them.! :floor:

Wim.

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Posted

I like the Mediterranean style, with clay tiles and stucco. :)

Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

Posted

x4 for the bahamas beach house. It does not even have to be an actual house just a hut so I could spend more on the palms!

Posted

I would like to make an observation .

Recently there was a topic that started off re Becc "windows".

This turned into some negative comments re taxonomists & palm academics including their "attitude" to Palm Talk.

This seems a bit gratuitous to me when this topic is in a forum supposedly discussing palms in the world.

If I was an academic and looked up palm talk and saw this post I would certainly wonder at the seriousness of the forum.

Surely there is a more appropriate forum on this site for these sort of discussions?

You can't have your cake and eat it too as my mother was fond of saying

Steve

Steve, you just notice it now? This is the reason I asked for a scientific sub forum. It would however be a very dry forum. With that being said, just because someone might be a taxonomist doesn't mean they would have to be dry and stuffy. I am sure they would enjoy the main PalmTalk forum. After all they're also human.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

a SMALL one.

Posted

I would like to make an observation .

Recently there was a topic that started off re Becc "windows".

This turned into some negative comments re taxonomists & palm academics including their "attitude" to Palm Talk.

This seems a bit gratuitous to me when this topic is in a forum supposedly discussing palms in the world.

If I was an academic and looked up palm talk and saw this post I would certainly wonder at the seriousness of the forum.

Surely there is a more appropriate forum on this site for these sort of discussions?

You can't have your cake and eat it too as my mother was fond of saying

Steve

You're right, there might be a better subforum in which to post this particular topic; "Off Topic" subforum perhaps. But the fact that you think the "Discussing Palm Trees Worldwide" forum should have some sort or "seriousness", I think, is a mistake. Let's not fool ourselves. Palmtalk is a discussion forum open to the entire internet. There is nothing that you can ever do to control the thousands of forum goers who want to participate in this forum. If the taxonomists and botanists want an official scholarly forum/closed group then I'm sure they know where to go for that, but Palmtalk is not it.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

I would like to make an observation .

Recently there was a topic that started off re Becc "windows".

This turned into some negative comments re taxonomists & palm academics including their "attitude" to Palm Talk.

This seems a bit gratuitous to me when this topic is in a forum supposedly discussing palms in the world.

If I was an academic and looked up palm talk and saw this post I would certainly wonder at the seriousness of the forum.

Surely there is a more appropriate forum on this site for these sort of discussions?

You can't have your cake and eat it too as my mother was fond of saying

Steve

You're right, there might be a better subforum in which to post this particular topic; "Off Topic" subforum perhaps. But the fact that you think the "Discussing Palm Trees Worldwide" forum should have some sort or "seriousness", I think, is a mistake. Let's not fool ourselves. Palmtalk is a discussion forum open to the entire internet. There is nothing that you can ever do to control the thousands of forum goers who want to participate in this forum. If the taxonomists and botanists want an official scholarly forum/closed group then I'm sure they know where to go for that, but Palmtalk is not it.

This seems very off topic for this thread, but I would like to add to the deliniation: Sure there is a sense of layman/beginner tone to some Palmtalkers, but I maintain that some of the most knowledgeable people in palms post here, if not frequent this site. My message was not to bash any taxonimists, but to implore them to share with their biggest fans, more. I do not think I ask too much.

Posted

I would like to make an observation .

Recently there was a topic that started off re Becc "windows".

This turned into some negative comments re taxonomists & palm academics including their "attitude" to Palm Talk.

This seems a bit gratuitous to me when this topic is in a forum supposedly discussing palms in the world.

If I was an academic and looked up palm talk and saw this post I would certainly wonder at the seriousness of the forum.

Surely there is a more appropriate forum on this site for these sort of discussions?

You can't have your cake and eat it too as my mother was fond of saying

Steve

You're right, there might be a better subforum in which to post this particular topic; "Off Topic" subforum perhaps. But the fact that you think the "Discussing Palm Trees Worldwide" forum should have some sort or "seriousness", I think, is a mistake. Let's not fool ourselves. Palmtalk is a discussion forum open to the entire internet. There is nothing that you can ever do to control the thousands of forum goers who want to participate in this forum. If the taxonomists and botanists want an official scholarly forum/closed group then I'm sure they know where to go for that, but Palmtalk is not it.

This seems very off topic for this thread, but I would like to add to the deliniation: Sure there is a sense of layman/beginner tone to some Palmtalkers, but I maintain that some of the most knowledgeable people in palms post here, if not frequent this site. My message was not to bash any taxonimists, but to implore them to share with their biggest fans, more. I do not think I ask too much.

I agree, I would love to engage with taxonomists. There are two genera that I would love to be able to discuss at a more scientific level: brahea and sabal.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

To bring the thread back on topic, I agree with Matty and Andrew, the smaller the better.

I had the opportunity to visit Dean's garden. His house is small, with almost 360 degree lanai, and all around are palms, palms and more palms. The house itself is a modest but beautiful Hawaiian plantation style house with a nice green metal roof that has a polynesian shape. if I were to re-do a place from scratch, I'd opt for a small place with lots of lanais from which one could sit and dream about palms.

Dean's place made me realize how spectacular it is to just sit on a lanai and enjoy beautiful palms. He doesn't have any ocean views because he lives in a forest of ohia trees. But IMHO the palmy view is worth more than any ocean view. I didn't take pics from his lanai at his place but I did take some nice shots of Bill Austin's nice pritchardia! This is what he gets to look at every day.

DSCN3814_zps1c5686c1.jpg

At my house, we have a nice palmy view from our lanai, it sorta looks like this. To imagine Dean's place, replace that parajubaea with enormous chambeyronia!

20140407_112221_zpsje9zsgxu.jpg

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

To bring the thread back on topic, I agree with Matty and Andrew, the smaller the better.

I had the opportunity to visit Dean's garden. His house is small, with almost 360 degree lanai, and all around are palms, palms and more palms. The house itself is a modest but beautiful Hawaiian plantation style house with a nice green metal roof that has a polynesian shape. if I were to re-do a place from scratch, I'd opt for a small place with lots of lanais from which one could sit and dream about palms.

Dean's place made me realize how spectacular it is to just sit on a lanai and enjoy beautiful palms. He doesn't have any ocean views because he lives in a forest of ohia trees. But IMHO the palmy view is worth more than any ocean view. I didn't take pics from his lanai at his place but I did take some nice shots of Bill Austin's nice pritchardia! This is what he gets to look at every day.

DSCN3814_zps1c5686c1.jpg

At my house, we have a nice palmy view from our lanai, it sorta looks like this. To imagine Dean's place, replace that parajubaea with enormous chambeyronia!

20140407_112221_zpsje9zsgxu.jpg

What species of Pritchardia are those? They look like P. beccariana but I'm not good with this genus yet.

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

To bring the thread back on topic, I agree with Matty and Andrew, the smaller the better.

I had the opportunity to visit Dean's garden. His house is small, with almost 360 degree lanai, and all around are palms, palms and more palms. The house itself is a modest but beautiful Hawaiian plantation style house with a nice green metal roof that has a polynesian shape. if I were to re-do a place from scratch, I'd opt for a small place with lots of lanais from which one could sit and dream about palms.

Dean's place made me realize how spectacular it is to just sit on a lanai and enjoy beautiful palms. He doesn't have any ocean views because he lives in a forest of ohia trees. But IMHO the palmy view is worth more than any ocean view. I didn't take pics from his lanai at his place but I did take some nice shots of Bill Austin's nice pritchardia! This is what he gets to look at every day.

DSCN3814_zps1c5686c1.jpg

At my house, we have a nice palmy view from our lanai, it sorta looks like this. To imagine Dean's place, replace that parajubaea with enormous chambeyronia!

20140407_112221_zpsje9zsgxu.jpg

What species of Pritchardia are those? They look like P. beccariana but I'm not good with this genus yet.

Bingo!

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

Thanks Axel!

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

I would like to make an observation .

Recently there was a topic that started off re Becc "windows".

This turned into some negative comments re taxonomists & palm academics including their "attitude" to Palm Talk.

This seems a bit gratuitous to me when this topic is in a forum supposedly discussing palms in the world.

If I was an academic and looked up palm talk and saw this post I would certainly wonder at the seriousness of the forum.

Surely there is a more appropriate forum on this site for these sort of discussions?

You can't have your cake and eat it too as my mother was fond of saying

Steve

I consider the living quarters part of the garden hardscape. Maybe there should be a hardscape subforum to discuss, waterfall features, viewing decks, pathways, sitting areas etc.

Agree that you would have to be a pretty dry individual not to appreciate the total asthetics of a garden, including structures and hardscapes.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

I had the opportunity to visit Dean's garden. His house is small, with almost 360 degree lanai, and all around are palms, palms and more palms. The house itself is a modest but beautiful Hawaiian plantation style house with a nice green metal roof that has a polynesian shape. if I were to re-do a place from scratch, I'd opt for a small place with lots of lanais from which one could sit and dream about palms.

Axel,

Thanks for the kind and complinentary words. I'm in the camp with those who like small houses and big gardens. The only thing I feel lacking in is closet space and/or a garage. :)

As to the discussion about taxonomists/scientists and PalmTalk - let's discuss that in another topic if need be. But, a new proposed IPS website with more venues for content and discussion is in the works - with one of the main ideas being to have a more structured atmosphere for the scientific "crew" to contribute. It may be more appropriate and to their liking than the somewhat free-for-all that we engage in here.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

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