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Steve that is a very solid point man. Sabal Palmetto is a deep, deep subject, so why don't we turn our attention toward Sabal Brazoria. Which is a cool palm.

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Brazoria is a hybrid but here is the catch it is a very old natural hybrid. It has been estimated that it was hybridized before any settlers ever reached that part of Texas; possibly even 1,000 years ago. The population there is also self sustaining and they cross pollinate with each other and produce seedlings true to form. It was thought to be a population that got isolated from other populations because of environmental changes.

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Originally it was believed to be a hybrid of Sabal Mexicana and Minor, but do to genetic research it has been proven to exhibit much more in common with palmetto and then secondly with sabal minor. Amazing really.

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Here's an update of the alleged riverside. It looks like it suffers from some cold damage here in zone 8b. Notice the leaflets are not bifurcate. I'm still not certain if this is riverside, it resembles birmingham a lot and It's a very slow grower putting on 1-3 leaves per year. 

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Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

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On 12/23/2015, 2:32:40, Brad Mondel said:

Here's an update of the alleged riverside. It looks like it suffers from some cold damage here in zone 8b. Notice the leaflets are not bifurcate. I'm still not certain if this is riverside, it resembles birmingham a lot and It's a very slow grower putting on 1-3 leaves per year. 

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Do three years later did you come to any conclusion? Is the S. Riverside?

 

 

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Not sure. I haven't been over to my Grandma's in a few years. That's where it's planted.

Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

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1 hour ago, teddytn said:

I keep reading Sabal riverside rated to 5f, anyone had their riverside tested in the ground to single digits and survived?

I can't attest to single digits but mine Sailed thru Palmageddon with ease.

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8 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

I can't attest to single digits but mine Sailed thru Palmageddon with ease.

T J 

Ok perfect, definitely worth a shot for some experimenting. 

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Here’s a few pics of what I planted 12 years ago as S. riverside, steady grower and never a problem with light frost or mid twenties.

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Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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31 minutes ago, freakypalmguy said:

Here’s a few pics of what I planted 12 years ago as S. riverside, steady grower and never a problem with light frost or mid twenties.

How long has it been seeding ? I'll buy some seed when there ready =) 

T J 

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Thank you @teddytn

@OC2Texaspalmlvr it’s been setting seed for about 5 or 6 years, I’ll let ya know when they are ready.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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4 hours ago, freakypalmguy said:

Thank you @teddytn

@OC2Texaspalmlvr it’s been setting seed for about 5 or 6 years, I’ll let ya know when they are ready.

Good looking Sabal , the seeds definitely should be spread around. I unfortunately had to leave mine at the house we sold. I felt it was a pretty quick grower. Bummed I had to leave it 

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