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Palms in Northwest England and Torquay.


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Hi, I'm a new member from Ellesmere Port in the Northwest of England. Just thought I'd post a few videos of slideshows, showing some of the palms here in England. Hope you enjoy them. The first is in Torquay at 50.4 degrees north and one of the mildest places in the UK.

The second is on the The Wirral, an area close to me in the Northwest at 53.3 degrees.

The last is my garden in the summer of 2013.

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Some awesome stuff there. And I complain about not being able to grow more in Norcal!

I lived in London for 8 years and loved the fact that there were Trachys around.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Welcome to PalmTalk, John. Your photo presentations are well done. I love your greenhouse and your garden is beautiful and peaceful.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

Welcome to PT and thanks for sharing a palmy slice of your part of the world with us. I enjoyed seeing both videos. Looks like you live in a nice area with lots of landscaping. Noticed some very nice specimens and I was surprised at how tall the trachys were in some of those scenes. Must be very old.

Hope you'll continue to log on and post. Since I'll probably never make it across the Atlantic, your personal photos are really a pleasure to see.

Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14

Posted

Wow!

Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

Posted

I go on vacation everyday, just by reading PT. Thanks for the video and paying my way to England this morning.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Posted

Welcome, cheshirepalms!

You have a great garden that's an inspiration.

Maybe you'll join the IPS?

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

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Could you tell us the name of some of those tall agave please? What are your low temps there? Those gunnera are huge? Bet a lot of cool weather species grow good for you there. Take a look at Axels threads, they will probably be of interest. ...and welcome.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

Welcome, cheshirepalms!

You have a great garden that's an inspiration.

Maybe you'll join the IPS?

What is the IPS?

Posted (edited)

Could you tell us the name of some of those tall agave please? What are your low temps there? Those gunnera are huge? Bet a lot of cool weather species grow good for you there. Take a look at Axels threads, they will probably be of interest. ...and welcome.

They are Agave Americana normal and variegata. My low here the last two winters was -7c, but nothing lower than -1c this winter so far, although my area had down to -15c. The Wirral and Torquay are much milder than I am. I'll explore the forum properly over the next week, looks great!

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CP, the IPS is the group that sponsors this website, and publishes the magazine PALMS.

I'm a director, as well as president of the Southern California Palm Society. (We also publish a magazine.)

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

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Could you tell us the name of some of those tall agave please? What are your low temps there? Those gunnera are huge? Bet a lot of cool weather species grow good for you there. Take a look at Axels threads, they will probably be of interest. ...and welcome.

They are Agave Americana normal and variegata. My low here the last two winters was -7c, but nothing lower than -1c this winter so far, although my area had down to -15c. The Wirral and Torquay are much milder than I am. I'll explore the forum properly over the next week, looks great!

David, I have both of those. Neither was affected by our recent cold, or in 2010. Sooner or later this year when I get to the coast, I would be happy to bring you some pups if you want.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

Posted

CP, the IPS is the group that sponsors this website, and publishes the magazine PALMS.

I'm a director, as well as president of the Southern California Palm Society. (We also publish a magazine.)

Ok, sounds good, how do I join?

Posted

CP, the IPS is the group that sponsors this website, and publishes the magazine PALMS.

I'm a director, as well as president of the Southern California Palm Society. (We also publish a magazine.)

Ok, sounds good, how do I join?

Just click on the IPS logo on the top of the page (international palm society) and you will see. :)

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BTW, if you join ISP there are some benefits you also get here on Palm Talk...larger photo file sizes and more time to revise/update your posts.

Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14

Posted

Sorry I mispoke, I didn't mean agave.....I guess the tall branched plants are some sort of Draceana.? Or yucca?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

Cheshirepalms, welcome to PT and all I can saw is wow.. It is amazing to see stuff that is so familiar to anyone from California, growing nicely much further north.

David, green, branching specimens appear to be Giant Yucca (Y. elephantipes) and the red leaved ones are a species of Draceana though I can't remember which one. Great plant, just not sure how well it would do here in FL.

-Nathan-

Posted

welcome from another cold region grower down in Tasmania

Nice collection of palms !

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

Posted

Welcome Chesirepalms from across the irish sea in Dublin Ireland, if you like the Agave, try out Agave Gentryi Jaws, i got them of a grower in England and they are even tougher than Americano's, grow rather fast and have jaws like a bear trap, also if you want really tough and odd looking try Agave Montana, only down side is they grow very slowly, i know Simon from Amulree Exotics is getting in some 80cm wide big boys this summer!

Posted

Welcome Chesirepalms from across the irish sea in Dublin Ireland, if you like the Agave, try out Agave Gentryi Jaws, i got them of a grower in England and they are even tougher than Americano's, grow rather fast and have jaws like a bear trap, also if you want really tough and odd looking try Agave Montana, only down side is they grow very slowly, i know Simon from Amulree Exotics is getting in some 80cm wide big boys this summer!

I have a small agave americana in my front garden, although the constant rain (despite mild temperatures) might prove a problem. I have a plan in late spring to incorporate this and my yucca gloriosa and chamerops into an arid bed with improved drainage and new plantings, including cacti.

Posted

There are tons of Agave you can plant in your climate, i have seen problems with them on the south west cost

of Ireland were they plant them in 90% sand & grit and feed them every 2 weeks otherwise they rot in the damp

soil, it all comes down to the soil, in my brothers garden we dug out the the whole flowerbed 3 feet down and put

in 9inches of heavy grit and pebbles for the first layer, the a foot 65-70 sand and grit mixed with a good soil, then

almost 50/50 soil/sandy grit for the last foot, he has 15-20 Agave species growing now at a frightening pace, its a

sunny location and they grow very fast in the ground, i can get you a list of what he has anytime you like!

But you have way more choices than Americano

Posted

There are tons of Agave you can plant in your climate, i have seen problems with them on the south west cost

of Ireland were they plant them in 90% sand & grit and feed them every 2 weeks otherwise they rot in the damp

soil, it all comes down to the soil, in my brothers garden we dug out the the whole flowerbed 3 feet down and put

in 9inches of heavy grit and pebbles for the first layer, the a foot 65-70 sand and grit mixed with a good soil, then

almost 50/50 soil/sandy grit for the last foot, he has 15-20 Agave species growing now at a frightening pace, its a

sunny location and they grow very fast in the ground, i can get you a list of what he has anytime you like!

But you have way more choices than Americano

I'll stick with the Americana for now but I don't think it will make it through this extremely wet winter and I don't have any more room in the front garden really. If I put one in the back my dog will probably kill himself. I do have a Victoria Reginae in the greenhouse I could plant out at one point. My main passion is palms at the moment. Do you have any pictures of this arid garden in Ireland? Would be good to see.

Posted

Thanks for sharing!

What is the palm that appears from 0,45 - o.49 s on the first slide show???

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Its an unknown succulent that was growing out of the rock on a secluded cove, if your talking about the Torquay video?

Posted

If you have room, Agave ovatifolia (whale's tongue agave) might be a good choice. There is a huge one growing in North Carolina, where they get a lot of rain most of the year, cold, snow and esp. ice in winter. That plant is amazing. We have one we bought there and planted here in mostly sand. We get most of our rain in summer. It is almost 1 meter diameter and looks great.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

Thanks for sharing!

What is the palm that appears from 0,45 - o.49 s on the first slide show???

Sorry, 0,52 - 0,57 s

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Its a young Canary island date palm, with a "Torbay dazzler" cordyline in front.

Posted

If you have room, Agave ovatifolia (whale's tongue agave) might be a good choice. There is a huge one growing in North Carolina, where they get a lot of rain most of the year, cold, snow and esp. ice in winter. That plant is amazing. We have one we bought there and planted here in mostly sand. We get most of our rain in summer. It is almost 1 meter diameter and looks great.

That looks good, but we get rain year round with no guaranteed dry season, usual average between 700-900mm spread pretty evenly. I am planning on making my front garden in front of the window an arid bed this spring, digging in grit and top dressing with decorative gravel. Already there is an Agave Americana, Yucca Gloriosa variegeta and a Chamerops Humilis.

Posted

OK, Thanks!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Iam gonna post a few shots next week of "the arid garden in Dublin Ireland" next week as i am sadly working night duty

this week, so please feel free to check in here next weekend to see the picks, its certainly worth a look!

Posted

Thanks for sharing. Cornwall is still om my list to visit once.

Southwest

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