Here is a yellow form. You could call it a malayan dwarf. I have several and they all look a little different. Notice it is much yellower than the near red one above. It's kind of funny, like Rick said. I love coconuts so much that I planted a few around my pool. Funny because I have some of the rarest palms in the world and I chose that one! BTW the two other side of my pool have Satakentia and Kentiopsis. The three different pinnate looks complement each other very well.

I knew a pilot who flew for Eastern Airlines and he used to fly MAT's for the military during the Vet Nam war. On one of his trips to Guam, he found a group of coconuts growing on a beach. Some were young sprouts which he collected and brought back to Miami. Unfortunately he broke the sprouts away from the nuts and they all died, but they were still fresh looking and the petioles were a brilliant sunrise red. They were much more red than the typical orange Malay orange. I have never seen any that red since then.

Dick

I love coconuts! I have several in my yard. I know one is a golden Malayan, 3 are green Malayans, and 1 is a Fiji dwarf. The 2 largest ones are less than 10 years old, have about 8 feet of wood and are holding the fruit - at least some of them - this year. They have very robust trunks with large bases.

Dave and Shirley Romney in Miami are the coconut experts. I talked with them about the differences and was soon lost! I know my Fiji dwarf is a Fiji dwarf because I bought it from them. Dave wrote a book about coconuts a few years ago.

And "dwarf" is misleading. It only means they bear fruit at a younger age and smaller size - or so I was told.

I don't have LY in my neighborhood and I have 4 undeveloped lots around me. Hopefully it won't come to my yard. I am trying to get rid of the grass to eliminate the home for the vector. I love my coconuts. They provide a lot of really nice shade.

I love coconuts! I have several in my yard. I know one is a golden Malayan, 3 are green Malayans, and 1 is a Fiji dwarf. The 2 largest ones are less than 10 years old, have about 8 feet of wood and are holding the fruit - at least some of them - this year. They have very robust trunks with large bases.

Dave and Shirley Romney in Miami are the coconut experts. I talked with them about the differences and was soon lost! I know my Fiji dwarf is a Fiji dwarf because I bought it from them. Dave wrote a book about coconuts a few years ago.

And "dwarf" is misleading. It only means they bear fruit at a younger age and smaller size - or so I was told.

I don't have LY in my neighborhood and I have 4 undeveloped lots around me. Hopefully it won't come to my yard. I am trying to get rid of the grass to eliminate the home for the vector. I love my coconuts. They provide a lot of really nice shade.

I would love to have a Fiji Dwarf!! I had to wait untill my Coconut palms had at least 8ft of trunk before they gave viable seed!

Wow, Jeff, what a great photo! Those leaning and curved trunks by the beach make the coconut so beautiful!

Heres a group of Pacific Talls (or maybe hybrids?) growing on the beach

If it wern't for LY South Florida would be so damm full of cocnuts that they would be PROMINANT in all areas. They once were and man was it cool. Coconuts everywhere.

Then they died. Almost all of them. About 1000 lived and of those some are still here.

Then hundreds of thousands of "Malayan" coconuts were planted and most of them have died.

Moral of the story? It dosen't matter if you have grass, palms with fancy names, injections, or a vodo doll, your cocnuts are suseptible to LY. When that little FLYING bug sucks on yours its By By baby.

In the mean time enjoy them and then plant more. They are free and easy!

Can anyone ID this new Coconut I just bought?

I was told it was a Maypan.  I bought a couple of them that were a little beat up but for 15 bucks took a chance.

It definitely doesnt look like a Malayan, so my guess is that Maypan hybrid (or a Tall) are what it is?  

Heres this same palm today. Its very hard to get good clean pics of it due to where its planted. The leaves look way too big to me for it to be a Malayan and its also already getting a very stout bottom. So, I think it must be some sort of Tall?

Heres are the fruit on one of my Coconuts which I believe to be a golden or yellow Malayan. Do these look ready to try and germinate? They are full of water as I can hear it sloshing around.

I climbed on my roof and took these photos of the leaves on the fruiting tree above. Malayan right?

Edited August 2, 200817 yr by spockvr6

Looks like Malay yellow (gold). You have a mite that is causing the brown marks on the fruit. They live under the calix thingy that covers the top of the fruit. Try to germinate after the fruit turns brown on the palm.

I have two fiji's as well from Dave. Do you have any pics mine are still attached to the nut and quite small.

Dave and Shirley Romney in Miami are the coconut experts. I talked with them about the differences and was soon lost! I know my Fiji dwarf is a Fiji dwarf because I bought it from them. Dave wrote a book about coconuts a few years ago.

Looks like Malay yellow (gold). You have a mite that is causing the brown marks on the fruit. They live under the calix thingy that covers the top of the fruit. Try to germinate after the fruit turns brown on the palm.

Thanks for the info Ken. Ill give these guys a good spraying with Maliathon!

Any clue as to the ID of this variety of coconut? It was sold as a “True Dwarf”. The orange in the petioles is the same color as a true orange tag that came with it (also seen in the pic). It is much darker than the bright yellow petiole ones you normally see. 

1 hour ago, krishnaraoji88 said:

Any clue as to the ID of this variety of coconut? It was sold as a “True Dwarf”. The orange in the petioles is the same color as a true orange tag that came with it (also seen in the pic). It is much darker than the bright yellow petiole ones you normally see. 

I see you are in Hawaii.  If looks like the Golden Hawaiian Tall by the color of the petiole, but you said it was sold as a "True Dwarf", so maybe a Golden Malayan Dwarf, but the petioles look too orange to be a Golden Malayan.  So, maybe a Red Spicata.  I am not very familiar with the Red Spicatas, so maybe someone experienced with them can chime in here.

It’s def redder-orange than the golden Malayan (which a neighbor has). Looking at the photo now the richness of the orange is kind of washed out compared with real life

12 hours ago, krishnaraoji88 said:

Any clue as to the ID of this variety of coconut? It was sold as a “True Dwarf”. The orange in the petioles is the same color as a true orange tag that came with it (also seen in the pic). It is much darker than the bright yellow petiole ones you normally see. 

It's Tahiti Red Dwarf

How do you identify a Jamaican tall?

3 hours ago, Zeeth said:

It's Tahiti Red Dwarf

Thank you!

2 hours ago, Jimbean said:

How do you identify a Jamaican tall?

Ask him for his drivers license? ...

Butch

2 hours ago, Jimbean said:

How do you identify a Jamaican tall?

Not fool-proof by any measure, but I usually look at the shape of the crown.  If the crown is umbrella-shaped, that typically narrows it to one of the Malayan Dwarf varieties.  The crown of a Jamaican Tall/Atlantic Tall is almost spherical when they are healthy.  Seedlings have strap leaves the entire way to the base of the stem.

Are they greener?  

4 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

...The crown of a Jamaican Tall/Atlantic Tall is almost spherical when they are healthy.  Seedlings have strap leaves the entire way to the base of the stem.

Yes! The full 360 crown is what attracted me to my Jamaican tall (RIP, 3/2018). 

 

2 hours ago, Jimbean said:

Are they greener?  

If by greener you mean the petioles, no.  They are typically a yellowish to orange type color, at least the ones I have are colored that way.  The length of the fronds at maturity also seems to be a little longer than the Malayans.  You can see the petiole coloring fairly well in the photo below.  The crown would be the full 360 spherical shape had I not trimmed off some of the fronds so I could use my walkway.

Okay thanks, now I need to know where to get one.  I've talked to a grower last week and she did not know the difference between different coconut varieties.  

4 minutes ago, Jimbean said:

Okay thanks, now I need to know where to get one.  I've talked to a grower last week and she did not know the difference between different coconut varieties.  

My source is Calusa Palms Nursery in Naples.  http://www.calusapalmsnursery.com/

Before the quarantine, I'd just look for a sale closer to here than Naples, email the owner with the size I wanted (3G/7G), and agree to meet him at the sale with payment.  Unfortunately, I think you'd probably have to arrange for pickup outside the nursery at this point.

Great topic!

 

I often go to our empty beaches during winter and sometimes I take two or three promising looking washed ashore coconuts home

and hope to find a species not grown on our island. I have bought once a Golden Malayan (probably dwarf) at our home depot

and grow now several others from coconuts I found on the beach. (since they are green and quite big, I think they are green talls)

A now a year old (or so) washed ashore one sticks out with its colors (petioles) and since a red spicata or any than Malayan type is

on top of my list I keep a close eye on this one when I am in the garden. It would be great if someone might id it even at its young age.

Please take a look:

Usually the orange is much more intense but at the moment it is cloudy and rainy...

(The little coconut in the first and second photo is not the one of this palm. I had just placed for ornamental reasons.) 

Its growth rate is rather slow which speaks for a possibly more exotic type - but I am not sure.

But if you check images of "east pacific currents", the coconuts on our beaches could (theoretically) come from almost everywhere -

even from Hawaii  . So if someone could give an id - whatever it turned out to be - I would be very thankful!

best regards from Okinawa -

Lars

 

Love it!

On 8/1/2008 at 6:54 AM, Jeff in St Pete said:

And here are some of the dwarf's growing on the property for comparison

 

Wow, Jeff, what do you mean "dwarf"!

4 hours ago, wimmie said:

Wow, Jeff, what do you mean "dwarf"!

With coconuts, there are Talls, Semi-dwarf and true dwarf types.  The Tall varieties, like Jamaican Tall and Panama Tall, typically get very tall fast.  Semi-dwarf varieties, like the Malayan Dwarf varieties in different colors, will still grow relatively tall - but they'll take their time getting there and typically set fruit while they are smaller.  A true dwarf variety, like Fiji Dwarf, is an actual dwarf rather than just a slower grower.  You'll see them set fruit with a very small trunk.  True dwarf varieties are great if you can grow them since they don't require a ladder to harvest the coconuts and they are easier to protect from cold in marginal climates.