Washingtonia filifera in Satellite Beach

[empireo22]

I found today another possible filifera in Central Florida can anyone confirm this is filifera or filibusta? the trunks look much fatter in person.

http://goo.gl/maps/Xssr8

[sonoranfans]

they do look like filifera, though the trunks aren't nearly as thick as in the southwest desert. Still, they look maintenance and are surely irrigation free...

[spockvr6]

Yes...those look like filifera to my (untrained) eyes as well. I also agree they are skinnier than the ones I've seen out west but they are still cool palms!

[Xerarch]

Oh yes, those are filifera, not the happiest I've seen but it's definitely filifera, if there is any robusta in it it's only a small part. I attribute the relative scrawniness to the climate that it's in more than anything.

[empireo22]

They may not be like the ones in Arizona but they are still fat when seen in person. Hopefully my seedlings grows up like so.

[_Keith]

So, what is the smaller palm to the left?

[Bill H2DB]

About 25-30 years ago , there were 2 or 3 large Filiferas in Daytona Beach. They were at the Burger King on

Nova Road. They were very fat . They did well for quite a few years , but after reaching about 25' tall, they began

to decline , and one by one died.

The soil there is marly sand/clay , with some coquina , and can have excessive moisture . It's about 2 3/4

miles from the Beach , and is actually a hardwood forest/Sabal/oak woods type of system. ( Ancient estuary bottom )

A better ventilated location might have helped them to survive longer .

[John Case]

I see no evidence of robusta genetics,,,gray green leaves or red in the petioles....fat trunks... I say filifera. Do they seed?

[spockvr6]

Yes...those look like filifera to my (untrained) eyes as well. I also agree they are skinnier than the ones I've seen out west but they are still cool palms!

Here is a view of some real deal (I believe) filiferas in Sacramento. Ive walked by these many times and the trunks are massive. In this street view, the car on the far left provides scale for the palm trunk.

This is Capitol Plaza in Sacramento.....a really cool city park with hundreds of different palms and trees (many of which are very old). This is my favorite place to go in Sac!

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=capitol+plaza,+sacramento,+ca&hl=en&ll=38.574868,-121.491648&spn=0.000001,0.000817&sll=28.176994,-80.592994&sspn=0.004741,0.006539&t=h&hq=capitol+plaza,&hnear=Sacramento,+California&z=21&layer=c&cbll=38.574868,-121.491648&panoid=3T8hq_nBYBu-rvbYgs2JKg&cbp=12,65.89,,0,0

Edited September 28, 2013 by spockvr6

[empireo22]

So, what is the smaller palm to the left?

when you move the screen to the left in front of the house there is a dypsis lutscens and the branching plant to the left of that is a screw pine

[_Keith]

So, what is the smaller palm to the left?

when you move the screen to the left in front of the house there is a dypsis lutscens and the branching plant to the left of that is a screw pine

Thanks

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

Probably filibusta, trunk not fat enough to be pure filifera, and filifera has little chance of surviving Florida's rainy Summers.

[NatureGirl]

I live in Satellite, my mom lives one street over on Park Ave. Yes, those are W. filifera, planted when they were very young (probably misidentified at robusta at the time). They have never looked good, always, always, ragged brown on the heads, they don't like the humidity at all compared to the W. robusta.

[howfam]

About 25-30 years ago , there were 2 or 3 large Filiferas in Daytona Beach. They were at the Burger King on

Nova Road. They were very fat . They did well for quite a few years , but after reaching about 25' tall, they began

to decline , and one by one died.

The soil there is marly sand/clay , with some coquina , and can have excessive moisture . It's about 2 3/4

miles from the Beach , and is actually a hardwood forest/Sabal/oak woods type of system. ( Ancient estuary bottom )

A better ventilated location might have helped them to survive longer .

Bill H2DB:

Yes, I remember seeing and photographing those Burger King Filiferas back in the nineties during many trips to spring break. Then, over a short period of time, one by one they died. I always wondered who planted them and where they got them. I think W. filifera does better in Florida if they are raised/planted from seed/seedlings so they adapt to our climate. I've seen several very old real filiferas here in Jacksonville over the years that were planted that way. Most are gone now but they lasted a long time./ Howfam