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Palms native to Mindo, Ecuador - Pictures from our ranch

JakeK

By JakeK
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So my family and I just got back from 2 weeks on our ranch in Mindo, Ecuador. Here are some pictures of the palms native to the ranch, at least the palms I was able to find. I'm sure there are at least 3-5 more species in the forest I wasn't able to find and photograph. I may need some help with the identification. I'll start a new thread in the photo forum with more pictures from the trip.

1. Socratea sp.??

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2. Ceroxylon echinulatum

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3. Chamaedora linearis

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4. Fruiting Ceroxylon echinulatum

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5. Flowering Prestoea acuminata

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6. Prestoea acuminata

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7. Canopy of Ceroxylon echinulatum

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8. Geonoma undata?

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9. Geonoma undata?

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10. Geonoma sp.??

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11. Geonoma sp.??

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12. Mature stand of clumping Prestoea acuminata

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13. Chamaedora linearis

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14. Bactris gasipaes

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15. Socratea sp.?? & Ceroxylon echinulatum

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16. Geonoma sp.??

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17. Phytelephas aequatorialis

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18. Phytelephas aequatorialis left in pasture

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19. Geonoma undata?

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20. Geonoma undata?

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21. Cocos nucifera (not native but growing on the ranch)

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Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

Pedro 65 Grand Master

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Jake, wow, after our chats we've had about your ranch in Ecuador, mate now Thats a Ranch.. your Dictyocaryum seedlings will love it there, your ranch has so much more rainforest than I imagined, lucky you, Primo....I see the Ceroxylon echinulatum doesn't have the white trunk you see on Ceroxylons, I wonder of the pic Jeff Anderson showed of an unknown palm many including me thought was Orania is actually this Ceroxylon ? Thanks for sharing, look fwd to as many pics as you can post. Pete :)

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Pete, currently the ranch is 500 acres with nearly 400 acres set aside as protected cloud forest / rainforest. Used to be 2,000 acres earlier in the 20th century, but had to sell off portions in hard times.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

Pedro 65 Grand Master

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Pete, currently the ranch is 500 acres with nearly 400 acres set aside as protected cloud forest / rainforest. Used to be 2,000 acres earlier in the 20th century, but had to sell off portions in hard times.

Wow, thats "fantastic" Jake. Pete :)

richnorm Grand Master

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Great pics Jake! Geonoma undata for sure. Wettinia sp maybe for the other.

cheers

Richard

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Love the pictures of Geonoma undata , Ceroxynon echinulatum and Chameadorea linearis !

Old Beach ,Hobart
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I love the photos, wonderful jungle !!!

Amazing Geonoma undata , see the palm trees growing so naturally takes a different view.

Thanks for sharing this images

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Jake,

What a fabulous place to call your own. very nice indeed! Feel free to post more pictures over time too. Thanks,

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

JakeK Experienced

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Great pics Jake! Geonoma undata for sure. Wettinia sp maybe for the other.

cheers

Richard

Richard,

I was thinking Wettinia kalbreyeri but I read they are native to much higher elevations than Mindo. The palm in picture #1 has absolutely beautiful gold/bronze underside to the leaves that shines like gold in the sun light. It's found all over the lower elevations around Mindo, below 1380 meters (4500 feet), but primarily below 1250 meters (4100 feet) and Wettinia kalbreyeri is tyically found at much higher elevations. Do you know of any other Wettinia species it could be?

Thanks,

Jake

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

JakeK Experienced

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Jake, wow, after our chats we've had about your ranch in Ecuador, mate now Thats a Ranch.. your Dictyocaryum seedlings will love it there, your ranch has so much more rainforest than I imagined, lucky you, Primo....I see the Ceroxylon echinulatum doesn't have the white trunk you see on Ceroxylons, I wonder of the pic Jeff Anderson showed of an unknown palm many including me thought was Orania is actually this Ceroxylon ? Thanks for sharing, look fwd to as many pics as you can post. Pete :)

Pete, actually the echinulatums have a grey trunk. It isn't that beautiful white of quindiuense, but definitely a shade of white. I have more pictures that better show off the trunk. I love how they look very similar to coconuts with their drooping leaves.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

Kim Grand Master

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Wow, Jake, what an incredible place! Complete with fantastic mature palms, I am at a loss for words...

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Well, Jake, your place takes the cake . . . :)

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richnorm Grand Master

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Great pics Jake! Geonoma undata for sure. Wettinia sp maybe for the other.

cheers

Richard

Richard,

I was thinking Wettinia kalbreyeri but I read they are native to much higher elevations than Mindo. The palm in picture #1 has absolutely beautiful gold/bronze underside to the leaves that shines like gold in the sun light. It's found all over the lower elevations around Mindo, below 1380 meters (4500 feet), but primarily below 1250 meters (4100 feet) and Wettinia kalbreyeri is tyically found at much higher elevations. Do you know of any other Wettinia species it could be?

Thanks,

Jake

Jake, I don't know which Wettinia but think those Ceroxylon could be amazonicum. Echinulatum is found above 1500m.....

richnorm Grand Master

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Oh, btw it's not kalbreyeri because the leaf form is wrong.

JakeK Experienced

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Great pics Jake! Geonoma undata for sure. Wettinia sp maybe for the other.

cheers

Richard

Richard,

I was thinking Wettinia kalbreyeri but I read they are native to much higher elevations than Mindo. The palm in picture #1 has absolutely beautiful gold/bronze underside to the leaves that shines like gold in the sun light. It's found all over the lower elevations around Mindo, below 1380 meters (4500 feet), but primarily below 1250 meters (4100 feet) and Wettinia kalbreyeri is tyically found at much higher elevations. Do you know of any other Wettinia species it could be?

Thanks,

Jake

Jake, I don't know which Wettinia but think those Ceroxylon could be amazonicum. Echinulatum is found above 1500m.....

I really think it is echinulatum. The book, the revision of andean wax palms notes that the there is a disjunct population in the area near Mindo, Ecuador on the western slope (1250m, 4100 feet). Loads of them above 1350m near Mindo.

I need to figure out potentially what Wettinia that might be. The gold sheen on the underside of the leaves is an awesome sight in the sun. At slightly lower elevation, starting around 1066m (3500 feet) Wettinia quinaria is everywhere.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

richnorm Grand Master

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Didn't know they went that low. Maybe we are using different sources. Couldn't find those references but only had a quick scan and it's a big document. I use the 2011 revision by Sanin and Galeano which refers to 1600m-2200m for echinulatum but also says amazonicum only found on South-eastern slopes of the andes (alongside the likes of Wettinia maynensis) at altitudes 850m-1200m. Given you are on the western side something is not quite right!

cheers

Richard

redant Grand Master

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:drool: really no need for words.

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

JakeK Experienced

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Thanks everybody. We really are very lucky to have this place. One day in the not too distant future it will be our home. More pictures in the travel logs.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

bgl Grand Master

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Jake,

What an absolutely spectacular place in a beautiful location! Loved the photos! I'm curious - how remote is this place? Do you fly into Quito?

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

JakeK Experienced

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Jake,

What an absolutely spectacular place in a beautiful location! Loved the photos! I'm curious - how remote is this place? Do you fly into Quito?

Bo-Göran

Hi Bo,

Mindo isn't remote at all, any more :( . The town is about 2 hours from Quito, 3.5 hours from Quito's new international airport, and on the main road heading west over the Andes to the Pacific Ocean. While the main road has been paved for at least the past 20 years, the secondary road down to Mindo was just paved about 5 years ago.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

JakeK Experienced

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A few more palm pictures.

Ceroxylon's on the ranch

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Wettinia quinaria on the way to the Pacific (around 3,000 feet abs, 900m)

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At least 3 species of palms in this picture along the road to the Pacific (1,000 feed abs, 300m)

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Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

richnorm Grand Master

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Nice. Do you know a place called Tandapi? There are some old plants around here as sp. Tandapi. I assume they are echinulatum but would be interested if you have any more info.

cheers

Richard

JakeK Experienced

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Yep, it is in the cloud forest zone on the main highway from Quito to Santo Domingo. That road runs parallel to the road to Mindo, but is further south of Mindo.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

JakeK Experienced

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Probably less than 75 miles away as the crow flies. Nearly due south of Mindo.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

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Jonas Enthusiast

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Great pics Jake! Geonoma undata for sure. Wettinia sp maybe for the other.

cheers

Richard

Richard,

I was thinking Wettinia kalbreyeri but I read they are native to much higher elevations than Mindo. The palm in picture #1 has absolutely beautiful gold/bronze underside to the leaves that shines like gold in the sun light. It's found all over the lower elevations around Mindo, below 1380 meters (4500 feet), but primarily below 1250 meters (4100 feet) and Wettinia kalbreyeri is tyically found at much higher elevations. Do you know of any other Wettinia species it could be?

Thanks,

Jake

Jake, I don't know which Wettinia but think those Ceroxylon could be amazonicum. Echinulatum is found above 1500m.....

I believe it could be Wettinia augusta... acording to my bolivian palm book this palm this one grow from Colombia all the way to Brazil... The leaf on your picture matches the one in the book.. In my opinion.. Wettinia augusta has stilt roots and about 10m high when mature.. 8cm diameter trunk...

jonas

JakeK Experienced

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Hi Jonas,

We (me and local guides in the area) are almost 100% positive it is Socratea hecatonandra. The geographic distribution, and physical characteristics match hecatonandra. The bronzing of the under-side of each leaf is a dead giveaway as that characteristic isn't found (to my knowledge) in any of the other Socrateas or Wettinias.

Also, Wettinia augusta is most often seen as a suckering species producing several trunks from the base. and this palm is not.

Jake

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

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