Phoenix canariensis sex type?

[Christian]

Hi I'm new to the forum. I was just wondering if canary island date palms are either male or female like other date palm varieties? I recently harvested some seeds from three canary island date palms but all three had dates on them. I was wondering how they might have dates if there were no males in the immediate area? Also I have never seen offshoots from canary island date palms so I was wondering if there is a difference between CID's and regular date palm varieties in the way the reproduce? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

[tim_brissy_13]

Canary Island Date are either male or female. The ones with the dates are females and are easy to spot when mature by their orange fruit which is produced in large numbers and light up the whole crown. The male CIDP has much smaller flowers and from a distance only the green crown of leaves can be seen.

If all three of the palms had dates and you were able to harvest seed from each of them, then they must have been pollenated by another palm. This may have been another male Phoenix species as the genus hybridise readily. Also, all pure Canary Island Date Palms (that I know of) are solitary palms and will not produce offshoots, so the only way they can reproduce is via germination of the seed that they produce.

[Arecaceus]

Does anyone know if you can tell female and male appart just by looking at them wihout the flowers or seeds? I know you can with P. dactylifera for example. But also P. canariensis? Or maybe even all the Phoenix?

[Darold Petty]

Yes, the gender of P. canariensis can be determined by appearance of the foliage,  Unfortunately I cannot remember the  relevant details ! 

( It's weird being the same age as old people )    

 

[Fusca]

I learned an interesting fact from @Phoenikakias years ago about sexing Phoenix palms as seedlings.  The ones that end up with somewhat curly strap leaves are males (I hope I remembered that right!).  Not sure about mature palms though.

[Darold Petty]

This issue was discussed at length several years ago on Palmtalk, but I am incompetent with the search feature.   

[PhoenixFXG]

Is Phoenix canariensis the same as Phoenix dactylifera in that the males are much bigger than the females?