Recommendations for thin trunk, full socal sun palms

[KennyRE317]

i'm wondering what palms can take full socal sun while having a mature trunk of around 6" or less height isn't too big of a deal as long as it can take the full sun (6-8hrs absolutely no shade) .... i'm going to go palm shopping in a week or 2 and looking to plan ahead.

[paulgila]

chamaedorea plumosa is the 1st thing that comes to mind.

[KennyRE317]

chamaedorea plumosa is the 1st thing that comes to mind.

not counting the Chamaedorea or Dypsis genus, i have a pretty good idea on those guys already and have plants for a few of each

[paulgila]

I really cant think of anything within those parameters which would have a trunk that narrow,but you're welcome anyways

[KennyRE317]

I really cant think of anything within those parameters which would have a trunk that narrow,but you're welcome anyways

thanks

[paulgila]

maybe someone else will have a good suggestion.

[grant b.]

six inches is pretty slender. outside of dypsis and chamaedorea, your options are gonna get a little slim. although a few things might work in the summer with full sun, in the winter they might dwindle without any canopy. I know you are near the coast (higher humidity and mostly frost free) and that helps, but most plants as slim as you desire are going to need some protection.

you could get away with ravenea hildebrandtii or r. glauca, dictyosperma alba, or euterpe edulis in your full sun, but in the winter they arent going to look happy without some protection overhead. Maybe plant a Caryota urens as these are fairly slim and quick growing and could create some canopy for you to plant below it in a few years?

[MattyB]

Coccothrinax, Ptychosperma elegans, Crysophila stauracantha,

[Hammer]

Matty beat me to it, my suggestion is the Ptychosperma elegans. Dypsis onilahensis weeping form might be a good one.

Both will get taller but, well couple ideas anyway.

[SanDimas]

BUMP....

I must have missed this thread back in August.

I have this walkway leading to the backyard with limited space,

6 feet between the house and the property line.

These thin(8"or less), tall and fast growing palms would clear

and eventually make space as they grow vertically.

SoCal northern sun exposure after 4pm

or passed 10 feet of roof.

These are what I have growing.

Any comments and suggestions greatly appreciated:

A. purpurea

Ptycho. elegans

R. glauca

Chambeyronia

Veitchia joanis, spiralis

R. baueri

A.maxima, tuckeri

S. botryophora, oleracera

Bentickia nicobarica

Almost forgot the tree fern.

R. Velez style this side of the house.

Thanx.

Ritchy

[SanDimas]

Kenny,

BTW

Why do you want to plant thin trunks in full day SoCal sun?

Southern and western exposure I have Livistonias, Roystoneas, Sabals,

Parajubea, Phoenix, Bismarckia and Syagrus planted.

[MattyB]

D. ambisitrae

[Kostas]

Matty,are you sure about Cryosophila taking full sun?

[KennyRE317]

Kenny,

BTW

Why do you want to plant thin trunks in full day SoCal sun?

Southern and western exposure I have Livistonias, Roystoneas, Sabals,

Parajubea, Phoenix, Bismarckia and Syagrus planted.

I was originally going to line the walkway leading to the door but I ended up going with enlarging the planters near sidewalk and by the house.

In general I don't have a lot of open space in my design to plant large palms (2' diameter trunk or larger) or palms wIth massive crowns unless I

Edited October 16, 2013 by KennyRE317

[KennyRE317]

Unless the fronds have a very upright growing habit. Now that I have most of my backyard worked over, my planters are a bit larger than it looked before so might be able to squeeze in something with size

[joe_OC]

Seal Beach has pretty ideal weather conditions. I would consider Euturpe edulis. They look better with shade, but where you are at, full sun should not be an issue.

[PalmatierMeg]

Coccothrinax, esp. if you can find a trunking one. They love sun and are drought tolerant. C. barbadensis is one of the most common and fastest (relatively speaking). Almost all Coccos are thin and unarmed.

[DoomsDave]

Ptychosperma elegans

Cocothrinax barbadensis

C. miraguama

Ravanea glauca, hildebrandtii

[Al in Kona]

If you can grow the Patioba palm (Syagrus botryophora) in your area, that would pretty much qualify to have a trunk under or near 8 inches. It's a beautiful palm carrying a lot of leaves tho' very slow growing until it goes from strap leaf to palmate, then it speeds up growth and actually becomes a fast growing palm.

[talkjk]

How about Ravenea Glauca. We just planted three and they sure are a good looking palm.

[nkbish]

Trachycarpus fortunei is common but fills a small spot nicely. Full sun no issue.

[KennyRE317]

How about Ravenea Glauca. We just planted three and they sure are a good looking palm.

Ihave one 5gal that's been dug up and potted.the glauca has very little roots but has no signs of stress, not sure how long its been potted since I was given this palms but it's one tough palm.

[paulgila]

Matty,are you sure about Cryosophila taking full sun?

i read somewhere that they like sun so i planted one in a sunny spot & it loves it.

[Kostas]

Thanks Paul!

Does it see temperatures over 35C with noon sun?(no cloudcover) I have all my Cryosophila warcewiczii planted in shade in areas where they will always be shaded no matter how tall they grow,fearing they wouldn't stand my sun. Howea fosteriana burns every summer for me even though I have high humidity.

[paulgila]

its up against a south facing wall,saw full sun all summer & is growing fast.

i had one in a shady spot & it grew slowly & never seemed to look that good...hence its death.

[sarasota alex]

Cyphophoenix nucele

[Sabal Steve]

Dypsis leptochielos, but the trunk may be slightly wider.

Edited February 27, 2014 by Sabal Steve