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The Neighborhood with the most palms?

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I've often been told that I live in a very palmy neighborhood. I live in eastern Broward County, Floirda (USA) which is greater metropolitan Ft. Lauderdale. It has only 147 homes, with one entrance/exit only.

So I set out to photograph just how many Genera I could find...with two rules:

1. None can be in my own yard

2. They must be visible from the street

Keep in mind that each Genus may be represented by numerous speices, but this is a Genus game. I did take some species within the same Genera for 'honorable mention.'

Here goes the Genus Game:

A

1. Aceolorrhaphe (wrightii)

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2. Adonidia (merrillii)

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3. Aiphanes (minima)

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4. Archontophoenix (alexandrae)

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5. Bismarkia (nobilis) Massive "twin sisters!"

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6. Butia (capitata)

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7. Carpenteria (acuminata)

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8. Chambeyronia (macrocarpa)

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9. Coccothriax (species uncertain)

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10. Cocos (nucifera) My fav!

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11. Copernicia (alba)

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12. Cryosophila (warscewiczii) in background behind 13. Licuala (grandis) triple

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14. Dictyosperma (album)

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15. Dypsis (cabadae) and (leptocheilos) and (lutescens) and (decaryii)

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16. Elaeis (perhaps guineensis)

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17. Heterospathe (elata)

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18. Howea (forsteriana)

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19. Hyophorbe (lagenicaulis) and (verschaffeltii)

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20. Latania (lontaroides)

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21. Livistona (australis) and (chinensis)

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22. Phoenix (canariensis) and (sylvestris)

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23. Ptychosperma (macarthurii)

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24. Rhapis (elcesa)

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25. Roystonea (regia)

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26. Sabal (palmetto) and (minor)

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27. Serenoa (repens)

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28. Syagrus (botryophora) and (schizophylla)

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29. Thrinax (radiata)

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30. Veitchia (joannis)

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31. Washingtonia (robusta)

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32. Wodyetia (bifurcata)

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[Three more species represented but neighbors were in their front yards, and since taking a photo is a bit intrusive, I passed by...Caryota, Chamaedorea, and Chamaerops. That makes 35, again, excluding my own yard!!! Anyone wanna challenge that?

Rick Leitner

Fort Lauderdale, Florida

26.07N/80.15W

Zone 10B

Average Annual Low 67 F

Average Annual High 84 F

Average Annual Rainfall 62"

 

Riverfront exposure, 1 mile from Atlantic Ocean

Part time in the western mountains of North Carolina

Gratefully, the best of both worlds!

Rick,

That IS very impressive!!! Granted most of these are pretty common for many of us to see, but the diversity is extreme. Excellent topic!

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Can't come even minutely close to competing with that. Wow that's wonderful. I wish my neighborhood had even ten genera.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

Las Palmas Design

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Elegant Homes and Gardens

Thats really a nice mix !!!

Wow that is a huge variety. I got to 18 from memory if I really looked I might be able to a couple more but nowhere near 35. great topic

Nice street Rick!

Besides my garden there is 1 other palm on our street and it is a Queen.

I'll just go and get my camera!

I built a list of what grows in my subdivision (254 homes) and without counting my yard I got 25 genera. I'm nowhere near being able to challenge Rick's 35, but I still think that 25 is not bad for Sarasota.

My community has (visible from the street):

  • Acoelorraphe
  • Adonidia
  • Archontophoenix
  • Arenga
  • Bismarckia
  • Butia
  • Caryota
  • Chamaedorea
  • Chamaerops
  • Cocos
  • Copernicia
  • Dypsis
  • Hyophorbe
  • Livistona
  • Phoenix
  • Pseudophoenix
  • Ptychosperma
  • Ravenea
  • Rhapis
  • Roystonea
  • Sabal
  • Serenoa
  • Syagrus
  • Washingtonia
  • Wodyetia

I can get to 35 if add what's visible from the street in my yard (I know against the rules, but as an "honorable mention"):

  • Areca
  • Brahea
  • Carpentaria
  • Chambeyronia
  • Cyphophoenix
  • Gaussia
  • Hyphaene
  • Licuala
  • Mauritiella
  • Pritchardia

Seems you have infected the whole neighborhood, nice job. My are doesn't come even close.

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

Well, lots of palms here in Leilani Estates. These are the genera that are easily visible when driving around my neighborhood:

1. Actinorhytis

2. Adonidia

3. Archontophoenix

4. Areca

5. Arenga

6. Beccariophoenix

7. Bentinckia

8. Bismarckia

9. Calamus

10. Carpentaria

11. Carpoxylon

12. Caryota

13. Chambeyronia

14. Clinostigma

15. Cocos

16. Cryosophila

17. Cyrtostachys

18. Dictyosperma

19. Dypsis

20. Euterpe

21. Hyophorbe

22. Iriartea

23. Latania

24. Licuala

25. Livistona

26. Loxococcus

27. Marojejya

28. Mauritiella

29. Metroxylon

30. Neoveitchia

31. Normanbya

32. Phoenix

33. Pigafetta

34. Pinanga

35. Pritchardia

36. Ptychosperma

37. Ravenea

38. Rhapis

39. Roystonea

40. Socratea

41. Syagrus

42. Veitchia

43. Voanioala

44. Wodyetia

Tahina would make it 45, but the Tahinas most visible from the street are in my own garden. There are about a dozen gardens here in Leilani Estates with Tahinas in the ground. When they get larger, a number of them WILL be visible from the street. And no photos - sorry about that. I know just about all these people, and in most cases, I sold them the palms. Sooo,. not going to drive around taking photos.... :bemused:

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

I can't compete in my neighborhood. Nowhere close! I remember cruising the neighborhood around Fairchild's though. Even if they are not palmophiles, they are neighbors to the frequent palm sales there. I think that south Coral Gables is up in the running also. Anybody there to take photos or do an inventory drive by?

So many species,

so little time.

Coconut Creek, Florida

Zone 10b (Zone 11 except for once evey 10 or 20 years)

Last Freeze: 2011,50 Miles North of Fairchilds

What a wonderful diversity of palms, you are lucky to live in such a palmy neighborhood.

For us, we have ver few species:

- washingtonia filifera

- washingtonia robusta

- archontophoenix cunningama

- queen

- trachy. Fortunei

- brahea edulis

- brahea armata

- canary date

- Pigmee date

- butia capitata

- Cham. Humilis

- butia capitata

- jubaea chilensis

- kentia

- Phoenix reclinata

That's it. I am trying to get neighbors interested in more palm diversity.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

I live in perhaps the palmiest neighbourhood of Melbourne and I still think we'd have less than 15 genera visible from the street. Off the top of my head Syagrus, Archontophoenix, Phoenix, Washingtonia, Dypsis, Caryota (only large one I know in Melbourne is 200 metres from my house), Trachycarpus, Sabal (only a couple), Bizmarkia (only one), Rhopalostylis (again only one), Ravenea, Butia, Howea, Livistona, maybe a few more. I cant actually think of any local Chamaedoreas or Rhapis even though they aren't uncommon around here.

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

I knew I had forgotten something! :) A property almost around the corner from me has a large grove of very tall Verschaffeltia splendida. How could I forget to include those? :mrlooney: So, here's the updated and correct list for Leilani Estates:

1. Actinorhytis

2. Adonidia

3. Archontophoenix

4. Areca

5. Arenga

6. Beccariophoenix

7. Bentinckia

8. Bismarckia

9. Calamus

10. Carpentaria

11. Carpoxylon

12. Caryota

13. Chambeyronia

14. Clinostigma

15. Cocos

16. Cryosophila

17. Cyrtostachys

18. Dictyosperma

19. Dypsis

20. Euterpe

21. Hyophorbe

22. Iriartea

23. Latania

24. Licuala

25. Livistona

26. Loxococcus

27. Marojejya

28. Mauritiella

29. Metroxylon

30. Neoveitchia

31. Normanbya

32. Phoenix

33. Pigafetta

34. Pinanga

35. Pritchardia

36. Ptychosperma

37. Ravenea

38. Rhapis

39. Roystonea

40. Socratea

41. Syagrus

42. Veitchia

43. Verschaffeltia

44. Voanioala

45. Wodyetia

And, Tahina would make #46. :)

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Great topic, Hawaii will always be close to the top, if not the top. I'd say some communities in North Queensland would compete with the Aloha isles though

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

I believe my Virginia Beach neighborhood would not be in the running. We have most of the common cold hardy palms, but I see nothing besides a few Trachycarpus fortunei trees in my subdivision.

Not very much variety in my Puerto Rican rural area. However I'm doing my part to change that.

Cindy Adair

I knew I had forgotten something! :) A property almost around the corner from me has a large grove of very tall Verschaffeltia splendida. How could I forget to include those? :mrlooney: So, here's the updated and correct list for Leilani Estates:

1. Actinorhytis

2. Adonidia

3. Archontophoenix

4. Areca

5. Arenga

6. Beccariophoenix

7. Bentinckia

8. Bismarckia

9. Calamus

10. Carpentaria

11. Carpoxylon

12. Caryota

13. Chambeyronia

14. Clinostigma

15. Cocos

16. Cryosophila

17. Cyrtostachys

18. Dictyosperma

19. Dypsis

20. Euterpe

21. Hyophorbe

22. Iriartea

23. Latania

24. Licuala

25. Livistona

26. Loxococcus

27. Marojejya

28. Mauritiella

29. Metroxylon

30. Neoveitchia

31. Normanbya

32. Phoenix

33. Pigafetta

34. Pinanga

35. Pritchardia

36. Ptychosperma

37. Ravenea

38. Rhapis

39. Roystonea

40. Socratea

41. Syagrus

42. Veitchia

43. Verschaffeltia

44. Voanioala

45. Wodyetia

And, Tahina would make #46. :)

You know, this isn't really fair, don't you live in the one place on earth where all Palmoholics eventually move to? I think of the Southeast section of the Big Island as the defacto "rainbow at the end of the palmnut migtatory route".

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

You know, this isn't really fair, don't you live in the one place on earth where all Palmoholics eventually move to? I think of the Southeast section of the Big Island as the defacto "rainbow at the end of the palmnut migtatory route".

Exactly! And I'm only doing my little part here, pointing out the obvious! :mrlooney: And who said anything about fair? :lol:

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

You know, this isn't really fair, don't you live in the one place on earth where all Palmoholics eventually move to? I think of the Southeast section of the Big Island as the defacto "rainbow at the end of the palmnut migtatory route".

Exactly! And I'm only doing my little part here, pointing out the obvious! :mrlooney: And who said anything about fair? :lol:

:greenthumb:

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

I took a walk around my San Diego neighborhood, and the results were devastatingly disappointing. :violin: The list was essentially identical to Axel's, even though much more can grow here. This is an older neighborhood, and some of the big Spanish-style homes are professionally landscaped, meaning they use the same-old same-old. Had I walked a different direction, toward the ocean, there would be some adventurous Bismarckia, Dypsis, and Caryota, but that doesn't expand the list by much. When I'm in Leilani Estates, the variety is nothing short of astonishing. It's a great place to go for a walk or a bike ride.

I'm looking forward to the Miami Biennial in 2014, hope to see some great, palmy Florida neighborhoods. :)

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Bo, no Cyphophoenix or Cyphosperma?

Resident of Puerto de la Cruz, Tenerife, San Diego, CA and Pahoa, HI.  Former garden in Vista, CA.  Garden Photos

Well, they are of course in some gardens here, but I don't believe any are visible from the street. Feel free to correct me, and add to the list! :)

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

I took a walk around my San Diego neighborhood, and the results were devastatingly disappointing. :violin: The list was essentially identical to Axel's, even though much more can grow here. This is an older neighborhood, and some of the big Spanish-style homes are professionally landscaped, meaning they use the same-old same-old. Had I walked a different direction, toward the ocean, there would be some adventurous Bismarckia, Dypsis, and Caryota, but that doesn't expand the list by much. When I'm in Leilani Estates, the variety is nothing short of astonishing. It's a great place to go for a walk or a bike ride.

I'm looking forward to the Miami Biennial in 2014, hope to see some great, palmy Florida neighborhoods. :)

I find it nothing short of shocking to see so little palm diversity in some parts of Southern California given the diversity the climate can actually support. I keep hearing about cool stuff showing up even at Home Depots down there, but when I went to our local home depot in Riverside, they had queens and pigmee date palms, nothing else, I mean, really nothing. That's sad. meanwhile, even North Florida is filled to the gill with palms.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

I took a walk around my San Diego neighborhood, and the results were devastatingly disappointing. :violin: The list was essentially identical to Axel's, even though much more can grow here. This is an older neighborhood, and some of the big Spanish-style homes are professionally landscaped, meaning they use the same-old same-old. Had I walked a different direction, toward the ocean, there would be some adventurous Bismarckia, Dypsis, and Caryota, but that doesn't expand the list by much. When I'm in Leilani Estates, the variety is nothing short of astonishing. It's a great place to go for a walk or a bike ride.

I'm looking forward to the Miami Biennial in 2014, hope to see some great, palmy Florida neighborhoods. :)

I walk my dog 3 times a day and i'm constantly disappointed with the palm variety in my neighborhood as well, especially being 5mi from the ocean. I live in an older neighborhood with a lot of older residents, they're slowly moving out and younger families are moving in so hopefully it'll change. a couple of washies, a bunch of Phoenix roebelenii, some archies, a couple howea, and a bunch of queens. when you get down towards the ocean you start seeing a lot more variety but I still think it's pretty tame

I find it nothing short of shocking to see so little palm diversity in some parts of Southern California given the diversity the climate can actually support. I keep hearing about cool stuff showing up even at Home Depots down there, but when I went to our local home depot in Riverside, they had queens and pigmee date palms, nothing else, I mean, really nothing. That's sad. meanwhile, even North Florida is filled to the gill with palms.

I go to home depot and lowes almost weekly and honestly the only things I see are howea, kings, queens, phoenix roeb, butia, Ravenea rivularis (almost planted in groups of 10 and sold as indoor plants), the occasional foxtail (considered exotic for the big box store), and of course the coconut. i think the big box stores keep the selection to a minimum and to stuff they know will be near bulletproof, and the list is for out here, since they have plant warranties.

OK...here's my list. I live in the north end of Palm Beach and each street has about 20 homes...the following are the palms I can see from the street in the front or side yard on MY STREET ONLY except for a few at the end of the street along the intercoastal waterway. The medjools and CIDPS are the only ones not on my street.

1.Thrinax radiatia (Fla Thatch)

2. Coccothrinax argentata (Fla Silver)

3. Carpoxylon macrospermum (Carpoxylon)

4. Bismarckia nobilis (Bizzy)

5. Dictyosperma album (Hurricane)

6. Kerriodoxa elegans (White Elephant)

7. Veitchia montgomeryana (Montgomery)

8. Phoenix roebelenii (Robellini)

9. Ptychosperma macarthuri (Macarthur)

10. Cocos nucifera (Coconut)

11. Livistona chinesis (Chinese Fan)

12. Dypsis lutescens (Areca)

13. Roystonea regia (Royal Palm)

14. Wodyetia bifurcata (Foxtail)

15. Copernicia baileyana (Bailey)

16. Veitchia merrillii (Christmas)

17. Veitchia macdanielsii (Sunshine)

18. Washingtonia hybrid (Washington)

19. Sabal palmetto (Cabbage)

20. Syagrus romanzoffiana (Queen)

21. Serenoa repens (Saw Palmetto)

22. Phoenix dactylifera (Medjool)

23. Hyophorbe verschaffeltii (Spindle)

24. Hyophorbe lagenicaulis (Bottle)

25. Phoenix canariensis (CIDP)

26. Licuala grandis (Licuala)

27. Livistona decipiens (Australian Ribbon)

28. Ravenea rivularis (Majesty)

29. Rhapis excelsa (Lady)

30. Syagrus schizophylla (Arikury)

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That doesn't happen there / So when you run make sure you run / To something and not away from

Cause lies don't need an aero plane / To chase you anywhere

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