My Beccariophoenix

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I pretty much love all the varities of Beccariophoenix, I have been collection them for a while, though I'd post some pictures of them getting some decent size. All where 3gal or smaller when planted.

First the windows, I have had these the longest.

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No windows...

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and what might be my favorite of the bunch, alfredii, many of my alfredii are next to coconuts, seems to me they look more robust then the coconuts, certainly greener.

[doranakandawatta]

By Jupiter! This is a god's garden!

Is this in Florida? (sorry for the question but I am in Switzerland mountains...quite far!)

It's a choreographic garden, I love the Alocasias dancing around the palm (a Beccariophoenix or the coconut?)

Which species is on the left of pic 071513.03 with nice trunks?

I think I'll grow Beccariophoenix in Doranakanda garden soon.

Thank you for showing us such beauty.

[redant]

By Jupiter! This is a god's garden!

Is this in Florida? (sorry for the question but I am in Switzerland mountains...quite far!)

It's a choreographic garden, I love the Alocasias dancing around the palm (a Beccariophoenix or the coconut?)

Which species is on the left of pic 071513.03 with nice trunks?

I think I'll grow Beccariophoenix in Doranakanda garden soon.

Thank you for showing us such beauty.

Yes all in Jupiter FL

"Which species is on the left of pic 071513.03 with nice trunks?" that would be a big fat double royal

[Zeeth]

Those beccarios are definitely beginning to make a statement. I bet they'll look just amazing in 10 years!

[Jeff Searle]

This is a fantastic genera of palms for south Florida. They have always performed very well for me.

[sur4z]

I pretty much love all the varities of Beccariophoenix, I have been collection them for a while, though I'd post some pictures of them getting some decent size. All where 3gal or smaller when planted.

First the windows, I have had these the longest.

Great looking palm...did you grow them from seed or purchase them locally and if so where?...pm me if you like.

[redant]

I pretty much love all the varities of Beccariophoenix, I have been collection them for a while, though I'd post some pictures of them getting some decent size. All where 3gal or smaller when planted.

First the windows, I have had these the longest.

Great looking palm...did you grow them from seed or purchase them locally and if so where?...pm me if you like.

All where bought at the local spring and fall palm sale, now at mounts in WPB or from Floribunda (mail order). The windows is my favorite for looks but alfredii for ease of growth and great looks. The no windows have been problem free but are best for a location where small for a looooooong time is OK.

[AlekLO]

Beautiful palm....

[Kostas]

Awesome Beccariophoenix specimens you got there!!! I totally agree with you that B. sp. ''Windows" is the the most beautiful of them all and B. alfredii blends the beauty with good and easy growth. I wanted to go with B. sp. ''Windows" myself but after 2 tries and failures(in a less than perfect spot for the species) and realizing i want to grow Beccariophoenix to have another sure and easy palm i can plant in many places, i went with B. alfredii as only 1 of the locations would be good enough for a B. sp. "Windows" to grow well and have frost protection for life! So B. alfredii it is,yours are beauties!

Btw,how does the leaflet width compares between this species and the others as well as that of coconuts?

[redant]

An update to the very last picture, the coconut grows so much faster then the beccariophoenix alfredii, they where the same size when they went into the ground.

[RedRabbit]

3 minutes ago, redant said:

An update to the very last picture, the coconut grows so much faster then the beccariophoenix alfredii, they where the same size when they went into the ground.

Thanks for the update! The growth rate is the primary drawback to Beccariophoenix from what I've seen and this is a great illustration of that. BAs are still great palms, but if you don't need the extra 5f in hardiness BA's provide it seems like coconuts are the better option. 

[GottmitAlex]

13 hours ago, RedRabbit said:

Thanks for the update! The growth rate is the primary drawback to Beccariophoenix from what I've seen and this is a great illustration of that. BAs are still great palms, but if you don't need the extra 5f in hardiness BA's provide it seems like coconuts are the better option. 

Spot on! B.alfredii are 5F hardier than cocos nucifera, however, at the same token, they are 5x slower to grow than Cocos nucifera.

Here's a nightie "flash" shot of my 6 year old B.alfredii along my 1.5 (one point five) year old green pacific tall coconut.

Whoever can push their zone,  do it. 

Youll have to guess which is the coconut and which is the alfredii.....

[Mike Evans]

19 hours ago, redant said:

An update to the very last picture, the coconut grows so much faster then the beccariophoenix alfredii, they where the same size when they went into the ground.

Not really a fair comparison.  BA grow much faster in more Sun.  Looks like the BA is in more shade than the Coco.  They are slower, but 5X?

[Tyrone]

23 hours ago, RedRabbit said:

Thanks for the update! The growth rate is the primary drawback to Beccariophoenix from what I've seen and this is a great illustration of that. BAs are still great palms, but if you don't need the extra 5f in hardiness BA's provide it seems like coconuts are the better option. 

In cooler climates where Cocos struggle the B alfredii would be far quicker than a Cocos and look far better too.

[sonoranfans]

while I dont dispute that cocos are faster, in My own yard beccariophoenix alfredii are almost twice as fast in full sun.  My full sun BA planted as a 3 gallon 2' overall seedling in 2011 is about 20' overall and holds ~twice as many leaves as the last one shown with the coco.   The sun grown ones also get much thicker trunks. My 20' BA also holds notably more leaves than any coco I've ever seen.

[redant]

Sun is extremely rare commodity in my garden so unless you're really tall you are not going to get much. I recently planted a BA in much more sun, see how that goes. The coconut gets a bit more sun then the BA but not much more.

The B. No windows, whatever they are calling that now has really turned into a stunning palm for me. The fact that it's EXTREAMLY slow for me is actually a plus for my garden where everything has got huge. A couple of the no windows now.

Edited August 15, 2018 by redant

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And the windows in a bit to much shade.

[sonoranfans]

they all look great, and I understand the windows form is a little finicky with nurtients so you must be doing things right.

[GottmitAlex]

10 hours ago, Mike Evans said:

Not really a fair comparison.  BA grow much faster in more Sun.  Looks like the BA is in more shade than the Coco.  They are slower, but 5X?

5x is a stretch. 3x is more like it. Sun or no sun.  But hey, if one is in a wet 9b or dry 9a, Beccariophoenix is the way to go.   I hope it's the next CIDP (growth rate,  it is) for the region. Cali/Baja.

Just hope the weevils don't acquire a taste for 'em. They changed their fancy by dining on CIDP's, since no one grows cocos in the region. 

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Lots of iron for the windows when they are young. They seem to be better as they age not requiring so much.

[sonoranfans]

My 3 gallon size alfredii from mike evans in 2011 has grown about 3/4 the speed of my bismarckia planted at the same time.  This one is in full sun of course and the trunk is 26" with leaf bases on.  It lost 6 leaves in IRMA, petioles were just bent too many times.  But it has a big crown so many leaves are left.  Here it is just 2 months after IRMA.  I think this one will throw more shade than a coco since it has more leaves.

[GottmitAlex]

5 minutes ago, sonoranfans said:

My 3 gallon size alfredii from mike evans in 2011 has grown about 3/4 the speed of my bismarckia planted at the same time.  This one is in full sun of course and the trunk is 26" with leaf bases on.  It lost 6 leaves in IRMA, petioles were just bent too many times.  But it has a big crown so many leaves are left.  Here it is just 2 months after IRMA.  I think this one will throw more shade than a coco since it has more leaves.

Exquisite! Do you know how old it was when it was in a three gallon? I take it, the alfie wasn't a seedling then. 

[sonoranfans]

17 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Exquisite! Do you know how old it was when it was in a three gallon? I take it, the alfie wasn't a seedling then.   

Ask Mike I suppose, it was in a stage where many of the leaflets still had windows, not separated yet.  My recollection is that it was a seedling with 4 leaves and a spear and was not particularly root bound in a 3 gallon.  Its one of my most bulletproof palms.  I have been away working for 90% of the time so it received almost no care aside 2x a year fertilizing and humic acid and lawn watering irrigation for 30 mins 2x a week..  At one point before IRMA I tried to count the number of leaves and it was about 18-20, dense enough to make it difficult to count.  I never saw that many leaves on a coconut. I have 3 and have recently cut down a bunch of overhead canopy so the other 2 are in 6hrs+ sun now.  These are turning out to be great palms for my area:  1) drought resistant like bismarckia, 2) not demanding of nutrients, florikan 2x a year, 3) cold hardy once established probably to 26F