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Best Archontophoenix and Roytonea for inland California

rprimbs

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rprimbs

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I want to get a "Royal" palm and a "King" palm, but I live in Escondido. What are the best Archontophoenix and Roytonea for a hotter inland location?

PS I should have put a question mark on the title.

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Stevetoad Grand Master

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If i remember right you dont get much frost right? if thats the case i would say r.borinquena,regia and princeps would work great. ive killed borinquena and regia but my princeps is still looking good.

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

DoomsDave Grand Master

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RP:

How cold do you get?

If you're frost free, you could at least try any of the Roystoneas. Heat isn't the problem, it's cold. They'll grow in the desert if they get enough water and it doesn't freeze, or freeze much.

Steve is in a place at the bottom of various hills, which send cold air onto his garden. The higher up you are, up to a point, the better.

Archies don't take heat as well as Royals do.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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DALION Experienced

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I'm no expert but my regias and Archontophoenix can handle my inland heat and cold. I have recorded temps from 27 to 112 and very dry Santa Ana winds.

I might want to mention that I'm near the intersection of the 91/241 freeways.

MattyB Grand Master

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Roystonea will handle wind better. Both love lots of water.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

rprimbs Mentor

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RP:

How cold do you get?

If you're frost free, you could at least try any of the Roystoneas. Heat isn't the problem, it's cold. They'll grow in the desert if they get enough water and it doesn't freeze, or freeze much.

Steve is in a place at the bottom of various hills, which send cold air onto his garden. The higher up you are, up to a point, the better.

Archies don't take heat as well as Royals do.

I am frost free. I am just above the frost line. It sounds like Roytonea princeps would be the best royal.

But which Archie should I try -- alexandrae? cunninghamiana? maxima? myolensis? or tuckeri? Which will take the inland sun the best? A. purpurea would be better suited for shade, right?

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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RP:

How cold do you get?

If you're frost free, you could at least try any of the Roystoneas. Heat isn't the problem, it's cold. They'll grow in the desert if they get enough water and it doesn't freeze, or freeze much.

Steve is in a place at the bottom of various hills, which send cold air onto his garden. The higher up you are, up to a point, the better.

Archies don't take heat as well as Royals do.

I am frost free. I am just above the frost line. It sounds like Roytonea princeps would be the best royal.

But which Archie should I try -- alexandrae? cunninghamiana? maxima? myolensis? or tuckeri? Which will take the inland sun the best? A. purpurea would be better suited for shade, right?

If you don't get a lot of wind, or have a good barrier, any of the Archies should grow. I have all except cunninghamiana and all take the sun well for me. I'm about 20 miles from the ocean, in an area with predominantly, but not totally, coastal influence. I don't get a lot of wind.

On the other hand, if Archies will grow for Dalion, they ought to be okay for you, too. He's in a [expletive] natural wind tunnel. :bemused:

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

Stevetoad Grand Master

Stevetoad

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i think most like starting out in shade although my maxima did very well in full sun right away. then it got knocked by this frosty winter but is coming back strong. if your frost free all 3 of those royals will grow great for you. if i was frost free i would go with R. borinquena. they are super fast!

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

rprimbs Mentor

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i think most like starting out in shade although my maxima did very well in full sun right away. then it got knocked by this frosty winter but is coming back strong. if your frost free all 3 of those royals will grow great for you. if i was frost free i would go with R. borinquena. they are super fast!

Thank you Steve. I think I will try R. borinquena and R. princeps, and A. maxima. If they do that well in Santee then they will probably be perfect.

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Will there be a fair water supply ? Is there any canopy ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

rprimbs Mentor

rprimbs

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Will there be a fair water supply ? Is there any canopy ?

There will be a fair water supply, but no canopy.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Try Alexandrae I would think, make sure it's already sun hardened.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

DALION Experienced

DALION

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RP:

How cold do you get?

If you're frost free, you could at least try any of the Roystoneas. Heat isn't the problem, it's cold. They'll grow in the desert if they get enough water and it doesn't freeze, or freeze much.

Steve is in a place at the bottom of various hills, which send cold air onto his garden. The higher up you are, up to a point, the better.

Archies don't take heat as well as Royals do.

I am frost free. I am just above the frost line. It sounds like Roytonea princeps would be the best royal.

But which Archie should I try -- alexandrae? cunninghamiana? maxima? myolensis? or tuckeri? Which will take the inland sun the best? A. purpurea would be better suited for shade, right?

If you don't get a lot of wind, or have a good barrier, any of the Archies should grow. I have all except cunninghamiana and all take the sun well for me. I'm about 20 miles from the ocean, in an area with predominantly, but not totally, coastal influence. I don't get a lot of wind.

On the other hand, if Archies will grow for Dalion, they ought to be okay for you, too. He's in a [expletive] natural wind tunnel. :bemused:

Dave,

The wind is not THAT bad here. I only get 40-50 mph winds twice a year. My cunninghamiana, myolensis, and tuckeri are doing well too and all are in full sun with no shade from 5 gallon size.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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RP:

How cold do you get?

If you're frost free, you could at least try any of the Roystoneas. Heat isn't the problem, it's cold. They'll grow in the desert if they get enough water and it doesn't freeze, or freeze much.

Steve is in a place at the bottom of various hills, which send cold air onto his garden. The higher up you are, up to a point, the better.

Archies don't take heat as well as Royals do.

I am frost free. I am just above the frost line. It sounds like Roytonea princeps would be the best royal.

But which Archie should I try -- alexandrae? cunninghamiana? maxima? myolensis? or tuckeri? Which will take the inland sun the best? A. purpurea would be better suited for shade, right?

If you don't get a lot of wind, or have a good barrier, any of the Archies should grow. I have all except cunninghamiana and all take the sun well for me. I'm about 20 miles from the ocean, in an area with predominantly, but not totally, coastal influence. I don't get a lot of wind.

On the other hand, if Archies will grow for Dalion, they ought to be okay for you, too. He's in a [expletive] natural wind tunnel. :bemused:

Dave,

The wind is not THAT bad here. I only get 40-50 mph winds twice a year. My cunninghamiana, myolensis, and tuckeri are doing well too and all are in full sun with no shade from 5 gallon size.

Okay, sorry. I was under the impression you had much fiercer winds. They are worse on the freeway. . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

rprimbs Mentor

rprimbs

Posted
  • Author
Posted

RP:

How cold do you get?

If you're frost free, you could at least try any of the Roystoneas. Heat isn't the problem, it's cold. They'll grow in the desert if they get enough water and it doesn't freeze, or freeze much.

Steve is in a place at the bottom of various hills, which send cold air onto his garden. The higher up you are, up to a point, the better.

Archies don't take heat as well as Royals do.

I am frost free. I am just above the frost line. It sounds like Roytonea princeps would be the best royal.

But which Archie should I try -- alexandrae? cunninghamiana? maxima? myolensis? or tuckeri? Which will take the inland sun the best? A. purpurea would be better suited for shade, right?

If you don't get a lot of wind, or have a good barrier, any of the Archies should grow. I have all except cunninghamiana and all take the sun well for me. I'm about 20 miles from the ocean, in an area with predominantly, but not totally, coastal influence. I don't get a lot of wind.

On the other hand, if Archies will grow for Dalion, they ought to be okay for you, too. He's in a [expletive] natural wind tunnel. :bemused:

Dave,

The wind is not THAT bad here. I only get 40-50 mph winds twice a year. My cunninghamiana, myolensis, and tuckeri are doing well too and all are in full sun with no shade from 5 gallon size.

Okay, sorry. I was under the impression you had much fiercer winds. They are worse on the freeway. . . .

I thought there pretty good winds up there too because of the forest fires that they've had up there. Of course there was a forest fire a number of years back that almost reached the house that I bought in Escondido. Curiously it is much windier on the top of the hill just above me. I'm in a bit of a sheltered spot. But if my palm trees were to get pretty tall they would be in wind.

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