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PRA Len's amazing Palm Garden

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A few weeks back I stopped at Len's place to buy a nice trachy nova, and Len showed me around a bit. He's a modest guy, but I feel his garden deserves to be featured on PalmTalk, it is simply stunning. If you wonder how his palms end up so dark green, try dolomite lime, that's Len's secret sauce. (It's mine too, along with good ol' urine.)

His Vista garden is inland far enough to supposedly be 10a, but looks more like a 10b zone to me. He would be better able to comment on the hardiness zone.

His bismarckia is just in the perfect spot, towering over a magnificent lagoon-style pool. Notice the kentia on the right, not much frost damage from last Winter, shows you how mild of a spot Len has.

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I am going to put down what I remember from taking these pictures, but he will have to correct any of my comments. One of the next two photos is the old dypsis betafaka, which is not the real betafaka, but was referred to some as the "ugly betafaka" but it doesn't look ugly to me. He says it puts on a lot of growth in Winter.

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

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This is one of two of Len's dypsis hybrids, don't remember which one, but it looks amazing:

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This is the other hybrid in his front garden, they're both the same type of hybrid, but notice how different they look. That's attributed to the variation in the hybrids.

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Here is a better view of the front yard one:

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

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This is one of Len's copernicia, I am drawing a blank on which one, looks actually like a rigida or baileyana. He says this is one of the only ones that survived from all the copernicia he brought back from Florida. This is a real beauty. Don't say you can't grow copernicia in Southern California, this is a fantastic specimen.

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That's all I had time to photograph, but there was so much more to see. I was a bit in a hurry as I had another stop to make at Joe's place. The picture below is Joe's brahea edulis forest, showing how amazing something as common as brahea edulis can look.

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Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Lens got a great looking garden. i wish you had something for scale by the bizzy. that thing is a freaking beast! thanks for the photos!

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Yeh, Pope Leonard Geiger the 2nd has a great garden!

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

great shots,axel.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

nicely grown trees. in the first photo in the first post, is the plant to the left of the bismarkia near the water's edge a allogoptera (arenaria perhaps)?

Grant
Long Beach, CA

Awesome Copernicia!!!!!! :greenthumb::greenthumb::greenthumb:

Beautiful palms Len. I'm thinking the Dypsis cross are D. lepto. X D. decaryi. And maybe the Copernicia is a C. bailyana. Definitely not C. rigida. I wish you had more pictures.

Len, btw, did you ever keep any of the crotons alive near your front door?

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Thanks,guys.

Gary, no one will get your Pope reference :)

Danny, thanks, it is a Fallaensis. Can't stop yellowing in winter :(

Grant, yes. Good eye. They say it is the most salt tolerant palm in the world. I put it there hoping it would take the pool water splash, leaking from waterfall, etc. It does great. Even has leaves sitting in pool water and doesn't even brown.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Thanks,guys.

Gary, no one will get your Pope reference :)

Danny, thanks, it is a Fallaensis. Can't stop yellowing in winter :(

Grant, yes. Good eye. They say it is the most salt tolerant palm in the world. I put it there hoping it would take the pool water splash, leaking from waterfall, etc. It does great. Even has leaves sitting in pool water and doesn't even brown.

Uhhhh. I got the pope reference...:P

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

i love the papal gardens!!!!

My Santa Clarita Oasis

"delectare et movere"

Beautiful palms Len. I'm thinking the Dypsis cross are D. lepto. X D. decaryi. And maybe the Copernicia is a C. bailyana. Definitely not C. rigida. I wish you had more pictures.

Len, btw, did you ever keep any of the crotons alive near your front door?

Jeff, the crosses are teddy tris. The first is killer. My friend Tri got it from Australlia. It is cold sensitive and brown tips. The other one is one I got from you. It never brown tips and is cold tolerant. Go figure.

I still have a few of your crotons. Non-palm people that visit the garden always comment on those plants more than any others. They don't grow like they do for you but i am very happy to have them. Here is Purity (has to be cut back all the time), Eleanor Roosevelt (grows like champ), Mamey (grows like champ), Stop Light (my favorite), charmer (super slow) and General Patton? (Slow also).

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Dude, that B. veillardii crown shaft is massive!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Dude, that B. veillardii crown shaft is massive!

It's crazy big. Want some seed from it?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Ok. I killed the last hundred from your tree, let's begin the massacre again. If you need me to help stop that C. fallaensis from yellowing, let me know.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Ok. I killed the last hundred from your tree, let's begin the massacre again. If you need me to help stop that C. fallaensis from yellowing, let me know.

I have tons of volunteers from this palm growing great under it. You kill 100. Weak.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Great Looking Garden Len, inviting pool you have there, can you add a few more pics of it? and aint that Veillardii a very chunky mother. Pete :)

dear len,

beautiful garden with manny of my favorite palms in it..

dear axel,

thanks for the visuals.

love,

kris.

love conquers all..

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I have been to Lens garden a couple times. He does a great job growing plants! :greenthumb::greenthumb: :greenthumb: :greenthumb::greenthumb: My profile pic came from his place last time I was there.

Randy

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Thanks for the pics Axel. California crotons, huh!

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

One of the best and most varied gardens in Socal imho.

San Fernando Valley, California

Len, your Allogoptera looks great! You dont see those enough in California despite them growing well here (albeit slow). Yours looks like it loves the extra heat from all the surrounding rock work. And its a good choice near the pool being that it will stay small and doesnt mind the occasional cannonball splash.

Grant
Long Beach, CA

Pope? I like it...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Well, George's nursery in Fallbrook did in fact dip to 27F... Perhaps there a special pope badge for Len that the PalmTalk admins could provide.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Great garden Len! Looks like a very relaxing environment for a palm nut! I love those teddy triangle hybrids!

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

Thanks guys! Peter, really.? Thanks man. Randy, it has grown a lot since you were here :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

crotons add a nice splash of color and a very nice B. veillardi as well good balance of plant material you have. ty for the pics :greenthumb:

Looks really good Len. Hows the carlsmithii looking?

San Marcos CA

Great pictures Axel

I am sure you had a great time visiting Len's fabulous garden !

Stay tuned for my thead on Len's place 55 pictures and 2 hrs of video ! :mrlooney:

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

Looks really good Len. Hows the carlsmithii looking?

Hey Shon. It is trunking but I can't imagine it being a straight Carl, it has a trunk the size of a Lutescens.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Outstanding garden! Love the use of the crotons for a bit of color. A very tropical oasis you got going there Len. :greenthumb:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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I am so glad this topic got moosed. That betafaka looks cool.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Thanks Moose. The cool Crotons I have came from Jeff. Many died but the ones that made it do great. Jeff said he is sending me "Jackpot" soon. Can't wait. :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

What a shame I did not get to see this place? But a San Diego PRA is coming, and I will be there to see this incredible garden. Can't wait.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

A fantastic garden indeed and chalk full of rare beauties primarily from Madagascar.

Jeffry Brusseau

"Cuesta Linda"

Vista, California

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