Palmeiras Brasileiras E Exoticas Cultivadas and other Lorenzi palm books

[monkeyranch]

I'm finding three different palm book titles from Lorenzi:

1) "Brazilian Flora: Arecaceae"(English) /"Flora Brasileira:Arecaeae"(Portuguese)

2) "Palmeiras Brasileiras E Exoticas Cultivadas"(Portuguese)

3) "Palmeiras no Brasil. Nativas e exoticas" 1997.

Are the first two the same book but different titled printings or are they two completely different books? If they are the same which title is the newest printing? If the second is different was there an English version now out of print? Thank you in advance for any answers.

[Pedro 65]

I'm finding three different palm book titles from Lorenzi:

1) "Brazilian Flora: Arecaceae"(English) /"Flora Brasileira:Arecaeae"(Portuguese)

2) "Palmeiras Brasileiras E Exoticas Cultivadas"(Portuguese)

3) "Palmeiras no Brasil. Nativas e exoticas" 1997.

Are the first two the same book but different titled printings or are they two completely different books? If they are the same which title is the newest printing? If the second is different was there an English version now out of print? Thank you in advance for any answers.

The 2 books are different

Book 1 is ALL Native Palms of Brazil incl geography distribution 2010

Book 2 is all native and exotic palms cultivated in Brazil ( printed 2004)

I have the 1st which is a "Fantastic" book..great pics and Very informative..pic below

pic below of book 2 for yr interest.. Pete

[Cindy Adair]

I got book #1 after seeing it mentioned by Pete on this forum awhile back. Thanks for the recommendation, Pete! I enjoy this book as well as two others by this author that I have owned even longer. Book #2 I don't own, but see it in the IPS website book list.

If you like trees in general, Lorenzi has "Brazilian Trees, Volumes 1 and 2." I believe I got them through the Rare Fruit Council International in Florida http://tropicalfruitnews.org/ although I might have bought them at the Fairchild Garden's bookshop or the Fruit and Spice Park gift shop. All of these organizations are worth supporting and have websites.

[edbrown_III]

there all good I bought 2 and 3 , all in portuguese. Pictures pretty much speak for themselves. If you know the least little bit spanish you can navigate through the Portuguese. The 97 volume I used in Brasil in 97 and 2001. It helped with identification of obscure species such as S. macrocarpa and several others as it was the only good book with detailed pictures of seeds and flowers. They have a metric grid for the the seeds so you can get an idea of the seeds sizes and shapes which is critical to identifying some of the Butias and Syagrus in habitat. Best regards Ed

[mike in kurtistown]

I reviewed book 1 in English for the Central Florida Palm and Cycad Society Palmateer Winter 2010 issue. Books 2 and 3 were from years earlier and are listed as references. (I contacted Lorenzi by email to get the details of the references.) Book 1 in Portuguese should be the same as Book 1 in English, except for, obviously, the language.

Lorenzi et all have a lot of good original ideas about how to document palm species, as noted by Ed. Some of the other palm botanists have disagreed with many of the authors' species calls, but I still find it a good reference for Brazil.

[monkeyranch]

Thank you all for the clarification. So, book #2 was only printed in Portuguese and there is no out-of-print English language version, correct? Apaandssa, thank you for recommending Brazilian Trees, Volumes 1 and 2 as I've been planning to order those as well. The Portuguese language version of the Brazilian Trees series is in three volumes. Was it condensed to two for English, or is the third one yet to be printed?