Dypsis Arenarum

[DippyD]

A new leaf opened up and with some warmer weather it has kicked into gear and figured i share some of its awesome colors....hope you all enjoy!!!

[DippyD]

i should add that this may not be the "real" arenarum, but i sure do like the color and red/purple glaucous petiole on the new fronds

[Mandrew968]

i should add that this may not be the "real" arenarum, but i sure do like the color and red/purple glaucous petiole on the new fronds

It is the real one.

[Jeff Searle]

Looks very nice to me.Very colorful.

[Chris Chance]

That's really nice! Thanks for sharing.

[Pedro 65]

I received seeds of D arenarum early July ( 2nd) and they are already popping, so are some of the Hovomantsinas received on the same day.

Many Thanks TOBY and RPS crew..Pete

[DippyD]

Thanks everyone for the compliments, this was a recovery palm dug up from a buddy and has never looked back,

Pedro, I'm sure this will grow wonderfully for you in your climate.

I know there a few others growing this over at the islands how are they growing for you guys.

[Dypsisdean]

I know there a few others growing this over at the islands how are they growing for you guys.

You may have already seen these - pics posted a month or two ago.

This palm was on it's way to the compost pile a few years ago as a seedling, after I assumed incorrectly it was just a misnamed D. lutescens. Then it started growing much faster and developed some nice colors. I'm glad I procrastinated. Whatever it is, I'm sure glad I decided to plant it.

[quaman58]

That is a pretty palm. I have one that is just beginning to trunk, but is surprisingly still solitary (no suckers). Most I've seen pictures of seem to sucker profusely. I'll snap a picture today.

[Mandrew968]

Dean, that's a killer looking palm. I hope that's what my arenarum looks like...

[Dypsisdean]

Dean, that's a killer looking palm. I hope that's what my arenarum looks like...

Andrew,

I'm 90+% sure the two pictured palms are the same. I'll get you an up to date pic when I get a chance.

[DippyD]

Very nice dean! These palms seem to grow much better than lutesens for us here in SoCal looks to be another dypsis prize winner.

[Dypsisdean]

Sorry guys, I got Dippy mixed up with Andrew. But if Andrew shows me a pic of his, I should be able to tell him if it's the same palm as well.

Dippy - this palm grew much faster than the D. lutescens here as well.

Here's the new photo I promised. I wasn't going to use this night time photo here, but I changed my mind - I think it shows the colors well enough.

[Mandrew968]

Mine came from Searle and is in the ground, in full sun. It's the real deal

[MattyB]

I think the ones from Jeff S. are a different palm from the pics I've seen in the past.

[Dypsisdean]

I think the ones from Jeff S. are a different palm from the pics I've seen in the past.

Me too Matty.

I remember Jeff posting a pic of his, but I couldn't find it.

[DippyD]

heres a couple updated color shots,

[Pedro 65]

The only pics Ive seen of an Arenarum that "doesnt" look a Golden cane is on the RPS site. The red spear has made me really look at golden Canes and "Yes' some certainly have them..sorry but a golden cane with a new red spear doesnt mean its Arenarum...surely not..if so..how unexciting.. Pete

[Hammer]

That is a killer looking palm. Another one to add to the list.

[DippyD]

The only pics Ive seen of an Arenarum that "doesnt" look a Golden cane is on the RPS site. The red spear has made me really look at golden Canes and "Yes' some certainly have them..sorry but a golden cane with a new red spear doesnt mean its Arenarum...surely not..if so..how unexciting.. Pete

Well whatever it may be Pete its a good grower, the golden canes normally get pretty beat up around this neck of the woods due to the Santa Ana winds(dry). This palm has seen it all from low temps, hard winds and low humidity and still seems to chug right along. For me I enjoy the caning palms so if its a good grower with good color sign me up!

[grant b.]

It seems like the leaflets are held more on a flat plane on this palm than lutescens. Also the color of the spear and trunk are quite different. What it does share that I still like are the gold coloration and speckling on the crown. nice looking palms gents.

[Jeff Searle]

I'm glad to see this topic brought back up. I"m almost 100% convinced that were talking about two different palms( possibly two different species). What I beleive to be the real D. arenarum has green/gray/silver/blueish trunks. I have a large seeding one at the house. The one in the picture ( as well as my 3 others) is clearly a different palm. It doesn't get the colors in the trunk, as mentioned above, BUT makes it up with this new red spear and a blackish color at the bottom of the trunks. Jason (Fallbrook Jason ) was just here visiting last week and saw both of these. Hopefully, Jason has some pictures he can post.For awhile, I was thinking that maybe these with the new red spear and black lower trunks, were just a form of D. arenarum, but I'm quickly moving away from that theory. They both grow extreamly well and fast here in my climate.

[Hammer]

Anyone know where I can pick up one of these mystery Dypsis?

[DippyD]

Anyone know where I can pick up one of these mystery Dypsis?

My plant came from Kevin weaver as a seedling about 6 years ago, where he got them no clue, maybe jungle music, maybe jeff can steer you in the right direction.

Jeff

Are you saying the pictures we posted are not like your palm or are. Hopefully like you said you can or Jason will post a photo or two. On my palm obviously it has more color than lutescenes but the spear and even leaflets have a glaucous to them as well while emerging and freshly opening up.

[LJG]

Pretty plant.

[Hilo Jason]

I'm glad to see this topic brought back up. I"m almost 100% convinced that were talking about two different palms( possibly two different species). What I beleive to be the real D. arenarum has green/gray/silver/blueish trunks. I have a large seeding one at the house. The one in the picture ( as well as my 3 others) is clearly a different palm. It doesn't get the colors in the trunk, as mentioned above, BUT makes it up with this new red spear and a blackish color at the bottom of the trunks. Jason (Fallbrook Jason ) was just here visiting last week and saw both of these. Hopefully, Jason has some pictures he can post.For awhile, I was thinking that maybe these with the new red spear and black lower trunks, were just a form of D. arenarum, but I'm quickly moving away from that theory. They both grow extreamly well and fast here in my climate.

I need to go through all of my pictures still and I will post some of what I have. I can say that Jeff has 2 different palms that he got as Arenarum. I have quite a few pics of the smaller one that he mentions as having red spears and black lower trunks. To me it looked similar to Ambositrae, but not exact. Just some similar traits. His big seeding Arenarum with the blue / grey was incredible as well (as is everything in his yard!)

[Mandrew968]

Jeff, what kinda palm did you sell me?? It has the red new spear and the petiole is quite long. It just split from two trunks to four trunks and is in the full sun. I know it's not a lutescens and I know it's name is Jeff...

[Jeff Searle]

Anyone know where I can pick up one of these mystery Dypsis?

My plant came from Kevin weaver as a seedling about 6 years ago, where he got them no clue, maybe jungle music, maybe jeff can steer you in the right direction.

Jeff

Are you saying the pictures we posted are not like your palm or are. Hopefully like you said you can or Jason will post a photo or two. On my palm obviously it has more color than lutescenes but the spear and even leaflets have a glaucous to them as well while emerging and freshly opening up.

Yes, I do have this growing in the yard. The one with the red spear and the black on the lower trunks. And then I have my original one that has more of a silver,bluish/gray trunks and crown.

[Jeff Searle]

I'm glad to see this topic brought back up. I"m almost 100% convinced that were talking about two different palms( possibly two different species). What I beleive to be the real D. arenarum has green/gray/silver/blueish trunks. I have a large seeding one at the house. The one in the picture ( as well as my 3 others) is clearly a different palm. It doesn't get the colors in the trunk, as mentioned above, BUT makes it up with this new red spear and a blackish color at the bottom of the trunks. Jason (Fallbrook Jason ) was just here visiting last week and saw both of these. Hopefully, Jason has some pictures he can post.For awhile, I was thinking that maybe these with the new red spear and black lower trunks, were just a form of D. arenarum, but I'm quickly moving away from that theory. They both grow extreamly well and fast here in my climate.

I need to go through all of my pictures still and I will post some of what I have. I can say that Jeff has 2 different palms that he got as Arenarum. I have quite a few pics of the smaller one that he mentions as having red spears and black lower trunks. To me it looked similar to Ambositrae, but not exact. Just some similar traits. His big seeding Arenarum with the blue / grey was incredible as well (as is everything in his yard!)

Thanks Jason, I hope you have some nice pictures! And it's definitely NOT D. ambositrae, as this palm will not grow here in south Florida. That I'm aware of.

[Jeff Searle]

Jeff, what kinda palm did you sell me?? It has the red new spear and the petiole is quite long. It just split from two trunks to four trunks and is in the full sun. I know it's not a lutescens and I know it's name is Jeff...

Well, this is the one were talking about that's in the pictures above. I had very few of these, so not very common. And I might add, it's been a great grower as your probably finding out.

[dan.vagnoni]

I'm glad to see this topic brought back up. I"m almost 100% convinced that were talking about two different palms( possibly two different species). What I beleive to be the real D. arenarum has green/gray/silver/blueish trunks. I have a large seeding one at the house. The one in the picture ( as well as my 3 others) is clearly a different palm. It doesn't get the colors in the trunk, as mentioned above, BUT makes it up with this new red spear and a blackish color at the bottom of the trunks. Jason (Fallbrook Jason ) was just here visiting last week and saw both of these. Hopefully, Jason has some pictures he can post.For awhile, I was thinking that maybe these with the new red spear and black lower trunks, were just a form of D. arenarum, but I'm quickly moving away from that theory. They both grow extreamly well and fast here in my climate.

I need to go through all of my pictures still and I will post some of what I have. I can say that Jeff has 2 different palms that he got as Arenarum. I have quite a few pics of the smaller one that he mentions as having red spears and black lower trunks. To me it looked similar to Ambositrae, but not exact. Just some similar traits. His big seeding Arenarum with the blue / grey was incredible as well (as is everything in his yard!)

Thanks Jason, I hope you have some nice pictures! And it's definitely NOT D. ambositrae, as this palm will not grow here in south Florida. That I'm aware of.

Jeff, didnt you have a nice D. ambositrae at the last sale?

[palmislandRandy]

After looking at the posted photos, I'm having some serious doubts about mine. This was purchased as a 3 gallon labled D. arenarum. The leaves on mine appear to be on a flatter plane. I hope it's not a plain old D. lutescens.

[DippyD]

After looking at the posted photos, I'm having some serious doubts about mine. This was purchased as a 3 gallon labled D. arenarum. The leaves on mine appear to be on a flatter plane. I hope it's not a plain old D. lutescens.

Very hard to say, obviously the newest spear is showing color. Interesting how its only 2 canes, if I remember right mine started to cluster pretty heavily at a young age. Also your growing conditions are much different than mine as well as deans and Jeff's. the only thing I'm not seeing is the darker color on the trunk yours seems to be green, speaking for my palm only with 1 ring but its a purple black color and as you can see the newest spears on my have the deep purple and there's a glaucous powder over them which seems to be on the leaflets when it first opens then slowly goes away after waterings.

[Mandrew968]

Randy, your palm looks just like mine--you must have gotten it from Mr. Searle too. I am not sure why there was mention of the trunk as it has yet to produce any, from the photos. Mine started pushing out multiple spears and now it's bifurcating from 2 to 4 stems. Maybe mine is splitting more so than yours due to mine getting more sun--yours looks like it is shade grown.

[palmislandRandy]

After looking at the posted photos, I'm having some serious doubts about mine. This was purchased as a 3 gallon labled D. arenarum. The leaves on mine appear to be on a flatter plane. I hope it's not a plain old D. lutescens.

Very hard to say, obviously the newest spear is showing color. Interesting how its only 2 canes, if I remember right mine started to cluster pretty heavily at a young age. Also your growing conditions are much different than mine as well as deans and Jeff's. the only thing I'm not seeing is the darker color on the trunk yours seems to be green, speaking for my palm only with 1 ring but its a purple black color and as you can see the newest spears on my have the deep purple and there's a glaucous powder over them which seems to be on the leaflets when it first opens then slowly goes away after waterings.

D. lutescens usually are clustering at this size. I'll see how it is in a few months & hopefully it may color up a bit like yours or maybe it's something completely different.

[Mandrew968]

Randy--your palm is the SAME as my palm and it's NOT a lutescens. Now, I thought it was an arenarum, but Jeff is saying it may be something different... but lutescens it is not.

[palmislandRandy]

Randy, your palm looks just like mine--you must have gotten it from Mr. Searle too. I am not sure why there was mention of the trunk as it has yet to produce any, from the photos. Mine started pushing out multiple spears and now it's bifurcating from 2 to 4 stems. Maybe mine is splitting more so than yours due to mine getting more sun--yours looks like it is shade grown.

Andrew, If I remember correctly, it came from Jesse Durko's as 3 gallon a few years ago. I thought it may just be a plain D. lutescens labeled as a D. arenarum, so it stayed potted in the shade. I actually planted it after seeing this post this past July.

[LJG]

Randy--your palm is the SAME as my palm and it's NOT a lutescens. Now, I thought it was an arenarum, but Jeff is saying it may be something different... but lutescens it is not.

Why can't this palm be a Lutescens? It seems to be another variable Madagascarian palm as can be seen in all the crazy examples grown in Thailand or the photos from some different forms in the wild like the blue lutescens that was posted a while back. Not saying it is, just saying I wouldn't rule it out.

[Mandrew968]

Randy--your palm is the SAME as my palm and it's NOT a lutescens. Now, I thought it was an arenarum, but Jeff is saying it may be something different... but lutescens it is not.

Why can't this palm be a Lutescens? It seems to be another variable Madagascarian palm as can be seen in all the crazy examples grown in Thailand or the photos from some different forms in the wild like the blue lutescens that was posted a while back. Not saying it is, just saying I wouldn't rule it out.

Why isn't my uncle, my aunt??? It's all in the nuts!

[Stevetoad]

Len- I was thinking the same thing. One of my Lutescens looks very much like Randy's. lots of red in the new spear. It also shows a lot of red at the base of the crown shaft. After this last winter it's looking now so hot but its still showing the red spear. When the old leaves drop it has a really colorful. But I'm still sure it's Lutescens. I'm having a hard time seeing the difference. Dippyds and Deans look different to me though.