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nasty surprise when cleaning palm stem

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Yesterday I decided to clean off all the old dried leaf bases from the lower stem of my D lutescens, and on the left hand stem I found something a little disturbing! Theres a long hole there with all crumb like material near the mouth. I also saw thrips crawling around the base of the stems, but I didnt think these were harmful on this scale(thought they ate only the leaf surface)

On the upside the palm does look much better without those old  dried 'onion skins', and it shows good colour near the rootbase too!

The two stems:

dypsisstem03.jpg

the hole:

dypsisstem02.jpg

healthy looking right hand stem:

dypsisstem01.jpg

By the way, where would the crownshaft form on this palm?

Cheers

Larry

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

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I checked tonight after moving it to a more open position now that its geting too big for its spot, and more crumbly stuff coming out.

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

Hi Larry,  I don't know what the heck that hole is.  Hopefully it remains benign.  The crownshaft is the whole smooth green area there from the petioles (or leaf stems) down to the roots.  By the way, I'd add a bit more soil to cover up where those roots are coming out of the stem.  This added moisture will also help the old leaf bases rot off and pull away more easily.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Thanks Matty!

So basicaly the crownshatft is the area marked out in yellow here,(dont all palms have this area?) and I should put fresh soil to the level marked in blue?

dypsisstemanalysis.jpg

Thing is, the soil is pretty much domed as it is,would have to wait till the repot in the spring.

Also, those old leaves were pretty much covering up those strut roots . Did I do a bad thing by removing them? I just thought they might harbour mould and creepy crawlies.

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

Yeah, add the soil up to the blue line when you repot, it's not urgent.  Not all palms have a crownshaft.  The crownshaft is formed by the leaf bases tightly wrapping themselves all they way around the stem.  Dypsis lutescens does this nicely.  An example of a non crownshafted palm would be a Pigmy Date (Phoenix roebellini) or Queen palm (Syagrus romanzoffiana), or Kentia (Howea forsteriana).  The leaf bases on those just attach without wrapping all the way around.  In some palms it's a little hard to tell if it has a true crownshaft or not.  See RLR's post about crownshafts in the FAQ's section for more info.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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(MattyB @ Aug. 05 2006,03:06)

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An example of a non crownshafted palm would be a Pigmy Date (Phoenix roebellini) or Queen palm (Syagrus romanzoffiana), or Kentia (Howea forsteriana).  The leaf bases on those just attach without wrapping all the way around.  

Aah, thank you Matty!

I thought my palm was Howea forsteriana at first and members of GW told me its not but I couldnt see why, and noone would tell me a way of distinguishing D lutescens from H forsteriana-now I know how!

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

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