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Tahina Problems

MattyB

By MattyB
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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Several people, including myself, have experienced Tahina aborting it's main growing point and popping a dweezle out the side or bottom. I just discovered something this morning that may be a contributing factor to why Tahina does this. Here's the overall shot of my Tahina that I recently transplanted in a super light mix, and when I did so, I rotated the whole plant about 90 degrees on it's side in order to make the new growing point and leaves face upward.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

MattyB Grand Master

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It had thrown a few new leaves out of this secondary growing point this summer and I thought it was on it's way to recovery, which is why I decided to transplant it, completely exposing the new growing point so that it wouldn't be burried anymore. Since the transplant I haven't seen any new spear emerge. I kept looking into the little hole in the center waiting and waiting, thinking that maybe the transplant had set it back again. This morning I noticed something resting in the petiole of the last newest leaf. What the heck? It was a new spear encapsulated into the deep groove of the last leaf's petiole.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Mine is in the ground and seemingly fine--do you think it is a locality issue?

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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After a little coaxing with my pocket knife the new spear came out of the petiole groove. This petiole groove is deep and appears to be almost connected, making this palm prone to constipation and subsequent rot in less than tropical climates. I don't know if attending to this problem will help in the future, but I'll sure try and keep an eye on it from now on. That spear has been growing inside of the old petiole for several inches and I just never saw it until today.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Justin Veteran

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Prone to constipation, huh? I wonder how many times that phrase has been uttered on the forum.

Resident of Puerto de la Cruz, Tenerife, San Diego, CA and Pahoa, HI.  Former garden in Vista, CA.  Garden Photos

bgl Grand Master

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Matt,

Interesting! I have observed several of mine do something similar - abort the initial growing point and start a second one. But I never noticed the "constipation problem"! :lol: I bought 100 seeds back in early 2008. 86 germinated and out of those 86 I'd estimate that close to 10% did this. For obvious reasons it sets them back quite a bit, but other than that they seem do just fine.

Bo-Göran

And Justin, I'm sure you know by now that Matt is a trailblazer when it comes to introducing new concepts here! :lol:

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

MattyB Grand Master

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Now that I look even closer, the new spear was actually inside of the petiole groove of the second previous leaf, not the most recent, or directly adjacent leaf. See that?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

realarch Grand Master

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Haven't noticed any 'constipation' problems, but it's worth a check. Looks like it might be one of the 90% Bo.

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Hmm.

Interesting.

I've found that Bizzies and other borassid type palms also get a bit constipated in the groove (Sounds like a 70's disco song . . . ) and that time, and the plant's increasing growth, help a lot.

For what it's worth. I'm watching Matty's tahina to make sure he takes good care of it . . . . :)

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

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Funny, my 2 that sit upstairs that I all but ignore, do fine. i rarely water them, and I think they love the little xtra heat... I am thinking they would make a good houseplant for a while actually..

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Jeff in Costa Rica Grand Master

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Matt, glad to see that you repotted it and exposed the new growth. I had a Tahina that did this and I left it alone and hoped that the new growth would push up and break through the soil. Unfortunately before that happened the new growth turned brown and rotted deep inside the pot. I ended up losing that one.

Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

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Nice tip, thanks Matty.

Good luck with it !

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LJG Grand Master

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I went to toss one of my Tahina's thinking it was dead after nothing for over a year. This is what I found. It was growing down for some reason. This is my second one that pushed out the side.

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

realarch Grand Master

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That is bizarre Len. The roots look healthy though and one would think at some point it would turn upwards and emerge out of the ground.

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Walter John Grand Master

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I went to toss one of my Tahina's thinking it was dead after nothing for over a year. This is what I found. It was growing down for some reason. This is my second one that pushed out the side.

Did you keep this Len ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

LJG Grand Master

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I went to toss one of my Tahina's thinking it was dead after nothing for over a year. This is what I found. It was growing down for some reason. This is my second one that pushed out the side.

Did you keep this Len ?

Yes, of course. I planted it in a bigger pot and kind of pulled the growng point up as much as I could without breaking. Here's to hoping it makes it!

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Moose Grand Master

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I went to toss one of my Tahina's thinking it was dead after nothing for over a year. This is what I found. It was growing down for some reason. This is my second one that pushed out the side.

Len - Very Bizarre indeed. :wacko:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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