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Chamaedorea Hooperiana

nkbish

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nkbish Rising Star

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Here are a few photos of my c. hooperiana. I wanted to know if there is a chance the seeds will be viable. It is the only chamaedorea hooperiana I have. Is it a palm that will produce seed on its own or does it need a male and female plant?

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Northern San Diego County, Inland

nkbish Rising Star

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Here is a close up of the seeds

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Northern San Diego County, Inland

The Silent Seed Grand Master

The Silent Seed

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I am no expert, but those look pretty small to me - maybe they were not pollinated, and they are just the fruits ?

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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The palm you have is a female--it will never produce pollen. So the chances of getting 100% hooperiana is slim to none(hooperiana is a fairly rare palm). Having said that, if there is a male Chamaedorea of any species in the vicinity, then there is a decent chance the seed will be viable, but you will have a hybrid(isn't hooperiana a hybrid itself?). There is also a decent chance that if you grow any of the viable seed, it will be an attractive plant.

The Silent Seed Grand Master

The Silent Seed

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I'd be interested in hearing / learning more about this plant, since I just received some hooperiana seeds and will plant them up soon.

BigFrond Mentor

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C. hooperiana is not rare at all. I do not know about the hybrid issue. I have two pretty big patches (female) that constantly produce mucho non-viable seeds.

palmtreesforpleasure Grand Master

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The palm you have is a female--it will never produce pollen. So the chances of getting 100% hooperiana is slim to none(hooperiana is a fairly rare palm). Having said that, if there is a male Chamaedorea of any species in the vicinity, then there is a decent chance the seed will be viable, but you will have a hybrid(isn't hooperiana a hybrid itself?). There is also a decent chance that if you grow any of the viable seed, it will be an attractive plant.

Chamaedorea hooperiana is a species , refer page 78 Don Hodels Chamaedorea palms

Viable seeds are black and are larger than in the pictures

regards

colin

coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

palmtreesforpleasure Grand Master

palmtreesforpleasure

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coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

chris.oz Mentor

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Hi Colin,

All the C. hooperiana seeds you kindly send have germinated and have 2 leaves and are about to be split out of the

community pot to grow on. So I will have some plants to share soon. Experience shows its best to share

after the plants flower for the first time, or send more than two, if the aim is to assist in conservation.

On the other hand, the plants do take quite a time and can be quite large when they first flower.

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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C. hooperiana is not rare at all. I do not know about the hybrid issue. I have two pretty big patches (female) that constantly produce mucho non-viable seeds.

Is it in the 25 common palms around your neighborhood? Is it even in the 50 most common palms? Is it in any landscaping palm book? I would guess "no" on all of these, so that makes it pretty rare IMO. Can you find it? Not at the local plant store. I'm sure you could hunt a few down within a month or so, but I broker and install palms and off the top of my head, I couldn't think of a nursery that has any Chamaedorea hooperiana... I'm just sayin'.

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C. hooperiana is not rare at all. I do not know about the hybrid issue. I have two pretty big patches (female) that constantly produce mucho non-viable seeds.

Is it in the 25 common palms around your neighborhood? Is it even in the 50 most common palms? Is it in any landscaping palm book? I would guess "no" on all of these, so that makes it pretty rare IMO. Can you find it? Not at the local plant store. I'm sure you could hunt a few down within a month or so, but I broker and install palms and off the top of my head, I couldn't think of a nursery that has any Chamaedorea hooperiana... I'm just sayin'.

I suspect it is a regional thing. They are fairly common "in Chamaedorea land" collections out here.. But then again, the Hoopers live out here too! I suspect louis has germinated and raised WAY more than a few of these to move on...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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They're not rare rare, like turkheimii, but they're not at Big Orange, either

Louis has a few at his place

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BigFrond Mentor

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HD out here have lots of them. Now Adonidia merrillii aka Christmas palm is rare out here. :mrlooney:

nkbish Rising Star

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Thank you for all the feedback. I guess I will need to get a mate for her. Is there a way to tell from a small palm if it will be a male palm, or will I have to get a mature one to know? Last question, what percent are male and female? If the odds are right maybe I could get a few small ones. Rare or not, it is a nice palm and seems to grow well in my climate. When I first got it I planted it in 3/4 day sun and it burned a bit (you can see the burns on the trunk in the photo). I moved it to a filtered light spot and it loves it. Thanks again for the comments.

Northern San Diego County, Inland

gyuseppe Grand Master

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Is there a way to tell from a small palm if it will be a male palm, or will I have to get a mature one to know? Last question, what percent are male and female?

percent are 50% male and 50% female, if a plant does not flower it is unknown whether it is male or female.

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Tyrone Grand Master

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Buy 3 to 6 more. Then they can all have parties on those warm summer nights. :D

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

palmtreesforpleasure Grand Master

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C. hooperiana is not rare at all. I do not know about the hybrid issue. I have two pretty big patches (female) that constantly produce mucho non-viable seeds.

Is it in the 25 common palms around your neighborhood? Is it even in the 50 most common palms? Is it in any landscaping palm book? I would guess "no" on all of these, so that makes it pretty rare IMO. Can you find it? Not at the local plant store. I'm sure you could hunt a few down within a month or so, but I broker and install palms and off the top of my head, I couldn't think of a nursery that has any Chamaedorea hooperiana... I'm just sayin'.

Hi

I have sent over 150 packets of seed of these to the palmtalk group over the last 2 years, many to the US, they were fresh seed , cleaned by myself, maybe someone who has some spare seedlings can share them with you

regards

colin

coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

palmtreesforpleasure Grand Master

palmtreesforpleasure

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Thank you for all the feedback. I guess I will need to get a mate for her. Is there a way to tell from a small palm if it will be a male palm, or will I have to get a mature one to know? Last question, what percent are male and female? If the odds are right maybe I could get a few small ones. Rare or not, it is a nice palm and seems to grow well in my climate. When I first got it I planted it in 3/4 day sun and it burned a bit (you can see the burns on the trunk in the photo). I moved it to a filtered light spot and it loves it. Thanks again for the comments.

need about 5 plants to be sure, to be sure

regards

colin

coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

dalmatiansoap Grand Master

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Then they can all have parties on those warm summer nights. :D

:lol::lol::lol:

:greenthumb:

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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I hear it's one of the nicer Chamaedoreas...

nkbish Rising Star

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I pulled the trigger today and got a mature mate for the female c. hooperiana. It had some old inflorescence on it and the seller was able to ID the gender. I removed them to clean it up a bit. Will these be pollinate on their own or will intervention be needed? If it does need to be pollinated how do you know when the best time for it is?

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Northern San Diego County, Inland

nkbish Rising Star

nkbish

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Here are a few more photos of the pair with a C. hookeri in the front.

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covering all the angles.

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Northern San Diego County, Inland

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