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Some of my palms, naturally, are showing diary overhead grass irrigation stress.

That's a mistake i wont commit again, to plant palms in a grass landscape.

This kind of irrigation hits and erode some of the trunks. And all the small and medium sized palms are submit to an extraordinary elevated skill of moisture. From March to October, this grass has overhead irrigation twice a day. That's obviously too much.

My next "palm project" is another garden i will own in a couple of years, maybe sooner than i can actually expect and wish, that's a legacy. Maybe later i will sell this house and begin everything again. :)

So, i have been increasing my potted palms collection, most of them to plant into that new garden, below some canopy i am intenting to create with one or two bigger palms.

In the meanwhile, i have tryed to keep a couple of palms apart from this irrigation, by creating a dry spot, covered with small rocks.

That's what i am showing now, where you can see new phoenix dactylifera, former c. vulcano and t. campestris/s. bermudana seedlings.

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it looks cool! how are you keeping weeds or grass from growing there?

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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very nice rafael!! you can set some foil under the rocks so the grass cant grow through it. i did that in my rock bed.

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Well in the wild a lot of palmspecies are found in grassland habitats like savanas. So some psalms should be able to cope with grass.

Alexander

Posted

Well in the wild a lot of palmspecies are found in grassland habitats like savanas. So some psalms should be able to cope with grass.

Alexander

Posted

Paul, i wont, i will just remove everything mannually, if needed, as i already do in other rock spots i have here.

Damir, very nice you dry spot...

Alexander, i mean grass wich needs diary overhead irrigation, off course.

Posted

when you say "diary" do you mean "daily"...

slight difference... :lol:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Some of my palms, naturally, are showing diary overhead grass irrigation stress.

That's a mistake i wont commit again, to plant palms in a grass landscape.

This kind of irrigation hits and erode some of the trunks. And all the small and medium sized palms are submit to an extraordinary elevated skill of moisture. From March to October, this grass has overhead irrigation twice a day. That's obviously too much.

My next "palm project" is another garden i will own in a couple of years, maybe sooner than i can actually expect and wish, that's a legacy. Maybe later i will sell this house and begin everything again. :)

So, i have been increasing my potted palms collection, most of them to plant into that new garden, below some canopy i am intenting to create with one or two bigger palms.

In the meanwhile, i have tryed to keep a couple of palms apart from this irrigation, by creating a dry spot, covered with small rocks.

That's what i am showing now, where you can see new phoenix dactylifera, former c. vulcano and t. campestris/s. bermudana seedlings.

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You water the grass twice a day? We are on the edge of a desert here, and if we water more than once per week it's bad for the grass and pocketbook, and that's before the fines for wasting water.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Posted

I have several palms growing fine in my lawns. Why do you water twice daily? Two or three times a week would be more than enouph.

Robert de Jong

San Clemente, CA

 

Willowbrook Nursery

Posted

This grass gets burned and dry whenever daily irrigation fails ...

If it is used to being watered that frequently, it has developed a very shallow root system that won't be able to handle less frequent watering. You might be able to slowly wean it off the twice daily watering, and get it to a point where watering once or twice a week deeply will keep it green. Would be much better for the palms and the grass.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Posted

Maybe he uses a kind of swampgrass... Maybe better to put a pondliner below then. Saves you water.

Alexander

Posted

This grass gets burned and dry whenever daily irrigation fails ...

If it is used to being watered that frequently, it has developed a very shallow root system that won't be able to handle less frequent watering. You might be able to slowly wean it off the twice daily watering, and get it to a point where watering once or twice a week deeply will keep it green. Would be much better for the palms and the grass.

Maybe he uses a kind of swampgrass... Maybe better to put a pondliner below then. Saves you water.

Alexander

This is a delicate grass wich i am not sure would handle such a low watering frequecy... :hmm:

But i think it worths a try...

Posted

Maybe you should just overseed it with something that is tougher and more drought resistant.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

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