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I had so much fun with the topic of Dypsis pembana and reading everyone's responses I decided to do the same thing with its close relatives D. cabadae and D. lanceolata (D. lutescens is also kin). I tried to get decent photos which wasn't easy as both are in my shade garden with a jungle of other palms.

First up: Dypsis lanceolata. I planted two from 4" tallpots I purchased in March 2010 along the main path. Bot have exploded and now stand 3-4' tall. They are also putting out new stems. Their fronds are dark green and leathery like D. pembana but not quite as large and robust. They took winter with only a few nights of protection with sheets. No damage.

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View of trunk/stem. The stems are dark, almost purple

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Next up: Dypsis cabadae. It clumps readily and quickly. Its stems are powdery blue like D. pembana but much thinner. Its fronds are less robust than either D. pembana or D. lanceolata with thinner pinnae. It hates frost, so I put it in the shade garden beneath our queens. It has become harder to access since I planted a patch of Chamaedoreas.

Frond views

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Blue stems

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

Thanks for the photos Meg. I have been on the lookout for cabadae illustrations though I find it hard to accept that my red stem and petioled one will eventually turn white.

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Posted

Beautiful! Wish my Dypsis grew that fast here...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted (edited)

Very nice comparison/contrast, helps me clear up a confusion I have with mine. My cabadae is in the ground, and taking off with the last humid heat we've been having. Mine also have droopy fronds like yours except for the emerging one. My lanceolata is still in a pot and its last frond has thicker leaflets, looking more lanceolate-ish with a very nice dark brown stem and petioles. Good pair of little palms, highly recommended :greenthumb::drool:

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Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Next up: Dypsis cabadae. It clumps readily and quickly. Its stems are powdery blue like D. pembana but much thinner. Its fronds are less robust than either D. pembana or D. lanceolata with thinner pinnae. It hates frost, so I put it in the shade garden beneath our queens. It has become harder to access since I planted a patch of Chamaedoreas.

Frond views

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Blue stems

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Hi Meg, your palms are doing great. Thanks for the post. I was dismayed when someone said that D. pembana, D. cabada and D. lanceolata were basically the same palm. I always thought them to be quite different too but, maybe I should take a closer look! Here are mine:

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D. pembana, stout and sturdy in full sun

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soft willowy leaves of D. lanceolata

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D. cabada, with a beautifully grown lutescens behind it

The palms are still young and none are clumping yet. The D. cabada was bought with four small trunks. All three are pretty fast growers for me. Peter

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Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

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Posted

Well, I need to put an update on this post!!

The cabadae and the pembana are huge, in fact, I noticed that my pembana is giving me seeds for the very first time!  Six years makes a big difference!  I am in the city right now but as soon as I get to the beach I will post an update.

 

Peter

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

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Posted

Reviving an old thread because I just planted a Dypsis Lanceolata that I picked up out of the jungle I visited yesterday ( aka @DoomsDave) . I found a nice spot with shade and filtered light . It is around the corner from the south side of my house along a fence line and should be happy there with shelter from our Santa Ana winds. Harry 

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Update: Chrysalidocarpus lanceolatus is a total wimp in SWFL. I had one stunted specimen survive until Hurricane Irma split it in two vertically. Chrysalidocarpus pembanus cannot survive major hurricanes (cat 3+). Hurricanes Irma & Ian ripped them right out of the ground then slammed them onto other vegetation. I had one stem survive from a 3g I got from Jeff Searle ca. 2009. Pembanus is also incredibly weedy with tiny red seeds that germinate everywhere. Still a beautiful, surprisingly weather tough palm for areas not prone to hurricanes. Chrysalidocarpus cabadae is wimpier than pembanus but far more resilient than lanceolatus. It is much slimmer than pembanus which may have helped its survival from hurricanes.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

I find Chrysalidocarpus lanceolatus to be thinner trunked and a bit more delicate of the three. It’s also the only one that has lost stems due to rot.

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My Chrysalidocarpus cabadae was originally planted in the shade house but has since way outgrown it. It’s a bit more robust with fewer trunks.

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18n. Hot, humid and salty coastal conditions.

Posted

I concur

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

Wowww All these insane "Dypsis" on top of Barra de paradise?! I need to get back down there once it's not 96% humidity.....

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