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I'm curious how old the oldest P. cocoides is outside South America. Anyone know of any real old timers anywhere? Any pictures?

Waimarama New Zealand (39.5S, 177E)

Oceanic temperate

summer 25C/15C

winter 15C/6C

No frost, no heat

Posted

I'm curious how old the oldest P. cocoides is outside South America. Anyone know of any real old timers anywhere? Any pictures?

I remember pictures of a Botanical Garden in......Sidney (??) AU ,with very big old and´´ normal´´ (=beautifull) looking P.cocoides that somene posted here last years

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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There used to be 2 large plants in Sydney Botanical gardens. I think one died a few years ago...not sure what happened to the other. It was quite tall and healthy, but they planted native rainforest trees near it, and maybe it was unhappy about the change of environment...it was a very old plant too. Funnily, it was growing next to the original Pritchardia maideniana.

Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

Posted

these are mentioned as plants in French RIveria in dated Principes (60's) and also in Lands End (british)

These might go b ack a century? Quito is a very old city so Parajubea might have been distributed last century to Europena gardens?

Best regards

Ed

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these are mentioned as plants in French RIveria in dated Principes (60's) and also in Lands End (british)

These might go b ack a century? Quito is a very old city so Parajubea might have been distributed last century to Europena gardens?

Best regards

Ed

I know no there are great Parajubaea cocoides in europe

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Posted

I know Mike Harris (Waykoolplantz) has some going in Broward Co., FL. I don't know how old they are. :unsure:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted

The Parajubaea cocoides at the Lakeside Palmetum in Oakland, California may be among the oldest in North America. They have been producing seed for many years, have 20+ feet of clear trunk, and were planted in the early 1980's. These photos were taken a few months back.

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Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

Posted

Sorry, no photographs of these older ones. During the 1970's there was an old, adult plant in Santa Barbara, California at something called 'the Gillespie Estate'. Barry Osborne would know about this plant.

In 1984 there was one at the Royal Botanic Garden in Sydney with about 8 meters of trunk.

The plants shown in Ghar 41's post at the Lakeside Palmetum were planted as 5 gallon size in the autumn of 1981 from seed collection in 1976 by Garrin Fullington.

Here is a photo of my plant; it was a two leaf seedling planted in March, 1983. post-31-061845300 1323034727_thumb.jpg

San Francisco, California

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Ahhh looking as beautiful as ever Darold ! --- The palm i mean :rolleyes: !

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

Posted

I don´t like the look of any of the P.cocoides pictured above. In habitat they look so beautifull.

I remember vaguely that the ones growing in Sidney had a ´´natural´´look.

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22444&st=0&p=374002&hl=cocoides&fromsearch=1&#entry374002

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

I know Mike Harris (Waykoolplantz) has some going in Broward Co., FL. I don't know how old they are. :unsure:

These will grow in South Florida?! I wonder how they are doing...

Posted

I have a P. cocoides growing in Walnut Creek. It came from the seeds that Garrin collected in 1976. It has had its upps and downs over the years. It was completely defoliated in the big freeze of 89/90 and I thought it was dead but it slowly recovered. I had 3 mild winters in '2003-'05 and it had grown a beautiful crown, then during the freeze of '06 it was zapped good, and it's never really recovered. It has about 12' of woody trunk but looks so pitiful I've been tempted to chop it down, but Patrick Schafer wants me to keep it in case it ever blooms and produces pollen for his hybridization.

P. cocoides is definately the most cold sensitive of the Parajubaeas and the slowest growing. P. T v T seems to be the fastest growing and also much cold hardier than P. cocoides.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

this guy looks fairly old

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