Chamaedorea radicalis hybrid

[Steve Mac]

We have a single mature female speciman of C. radicalis that has set 'normal' looking red seeds. (actually like microspadix too)

We also have C. tepejilote, adcendens, metalica and microspadix in the garden. But closest is the big male bamboo palm.

So the seeds are probably X microspadix, right? We've planted them so fingers crossed, Has anyone else produced a C. radicalis X C. microspadix plant?

[Kailua_Krish]

I have a supposed F2 from Tank but its too small see what it will look like. Perhaps he can help?

-Krishna

[Nigel]

I did produce one seedling which was just beginning to make a second stem when i sold it.............

I didnt find the pollen particularly compatible, only managed to set 5 seeds.

Edited February 17, 2011 by Nigel

[tank]

The parent of my plants looks like you would imagine. Taller than radicalis with narrower leaves than microspadix. Its a very attractive plant, more aesthetically pleasing than either of its parents (IMHO). It has proven more cold hardy than the "trunking" version of radicalis, and appears to be distinct, hopefully in a couple years I can get a pic of the two side by side for comparison. The seed came from a female F1 cross with only a male F1 cross as the possible inseminator. They also appear to have hybrid vigor, definitely outpacing either radicalis or microspadix.

[merrillwx]

Many years ago I crossed C. radicallis X C. microspadix. I didn't use the normal precautions, but there were no other Chamaedorea nearby, and radicallis and microspadix are very closely related. The hybrids were as expected for the most part. One of the hybrids was apparently stoloniferous [four similar stems with VERY short internodes] but not very attractive!

my trunked radicallis is about six feet tall. Guess I should cross it w/ microspadix.

Best Wishes,

merrill

[tank]

Merrill,

If you gave any of your hybrids to Russell Adams, I would imagine that mine are F2s from your plants. He has several of the F1s planted around the house at his nursery.

Hope you're doing well.

I still need to bring you a Livistona muellerii.

[merrillwx]

Hi, Tank:

Russ may remember, but I certainly don't! Hope all is well w/ you and yours!

merrill

[gyuseppe]

my Chamaedorea elegans never produced seeds,This year has blossomed with a Chamaedorea radicalis male,it has produced few seeds,perhaps hybrid seeds elegans x radicalis ?

[Patrick]

Palmguywc could probably comment best on this....

[merrillwx]

Hi, gyuseppe:

We certainly wish you the best on having a hybrid of radicalis X elegans, but they are not closely related.

Best Wishes,

merrill

[PalmGuyWC]

Years ago I crossed Radicalis with Microspadix using Radicalis as the mother plant. I couldn't get them to cross the other way. They were all single trunked and not very attractive. The best looking Cham hybrid was using C. oreophylla as the mother with Radicalis.

Dick

[tank]

Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder.

[Eric in Orlando]

Here is a C. radicalis x microspadix growing at a local nursery;

[Steve Mac]

That is what it looks like too.

I like it.

[Alicehunter2000]

Is it possible to cross C. radicalis trunking form with a C. woodsoniana? Has anyone ever tried? Thinking about locating and purchasing a male woodsoniana to cross with my C. radicalis that I purchased from Ken. Phil has some right?

[Alicehunter2000]

Here is the mama just about ready to start flowering.....anybody have any woody pollen?

[tank]

David,

You may find this thread helpful.

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/2178-a-question-for-kamipalms/?hl=%2Bhybridize+%2Bchamaedorea+%2Bmetallica#entry36253

[Horace]

I have microspadix x radicalis volunteer in the garden occasionally - they must have the same pollinator here. The last few batches of seed that I germinated from either do not appear to have any hybrids - I was hoping to get a few. The plants look very nice.

[Steve Mac]

My seeds are just sprouting now of the Ch. microspadix male X radicalis female.

they have been slow.

[Alicehunter2000]

A DoomsDave intra-species hybrid.

C. radicalis (trunking form) X C. radicalis (bushy form)

A vigorous grower

[Brad Mondel]

Any pictures of these hybrids? 

[Ed in Houston]

On 10/20/2013, 11:07:18, Alicehunter2000 said:

Is it possible to cross C. radicalis trunking form with a C. woodsoniana? Has anyone ever tried? Thinking about locating and purchasing a male woodsoniana to cross with my C. radicalis that I purchased from Ken. Phil has some right?

I have several trunking form radicalis that flower and several 2 year old woodsoniana that are as yet too young to flower. It would be great to have a larger and faster growing radicalis x woodsoniana than just a radicalis and the cross be hardy to 9a.

I don't know how to attempt the cross. Would they not have to flower at the same time? I also can't tell the males from the females from a transgender!

Perhaps cut a male flower stalk from the radicalis and enclose it in a plastic bag with a female woodsoniana flower stalk?

Would this produce seed? Would the seed be fertile?

Ed in Houston

 

 

 

[Alicehunter2000]

Ed, my thoughts exactly....let me know if you have any success. I got a couple of woodsoniana about the same size as yours.....it will be a race..lol.

They are from the same subgroup I think? .... could try with microspadix as well.

[DoomsDave]

On 10/29/2013, 8:08:40, Alicehunter2000 said:

A DoomsDave intra-species hybrid.

 

C. radicalis (trunking form) X C. radicalis (bushy form)

 

A vigorous grower

That will turn into a trunker phenotype, with some bush in the genotype. Sounds like a Bugle Boy ad . . .

[DoomsDave]

10 hours ago, Ed in Houston said:

I have several trunking form radicalis that flower and several 2 year old woodsoniana that are as yet too young to flower. It would be great to have a larger and faster growing radicalis x woodsoniana than just a radicalis and the cross be hardy to 9a.

I don't know how to attempt the cross. Would they not have to flower at the same time? I also can't tell the males from the females from a transgender!

Perhaps cut a male flower stalk from the radicalis and enclose it in a plastic bag with a female woodsoniana flower stalk?

Would this produce seed? Would the seed be fertile?

Ed in Houston

 

 

 

I htink you'll need to get some pollinators in teh bag, or hand pollinate receptive flowers by hand, with a brush.

It's been done both ways, though I'm not sure what the pollinator is.