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Clinostigmas in South Florida

Mandrew968

By Mandrew968
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Update on this palm, above. I think I remember Bo saying that a certain species of Clinostigma holds the simple leaf for longer than most other species--which ever one that is, this is that one(I think samoense). Bad pic...

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Hi Andrew, yup it's C. samoense that hold entire leaves while still young. Yours is looking good.

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Hilo, Hawaii

Zeeth Grand Master

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Nice color to at one Dave!

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Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Here are a couple better shots of this samoense.

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Here is one from a friend's garden. This was a Ken Johnson special.

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Update on the samoense...

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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Here is one from a friend's garden. This was a Ken Johnson special.

That thing transplanted well. :greenthumb:

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Here is one from a friend's garden. This was a Ken Johnson special.

That thing transplanted well. :greenthumb:
It has not missed a beat! That first week, it dropped a leaf and then never looked back. It came from the Man, so it's what I expected...
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good to know that they dig well...

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Update. Stilt roots are starting to form...

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Andrew,

We don't have the same climate, so I am looking forward to seeing my Clinostigma getting soon as nice as your. :)

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Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Updates on this one. There was a lutescens that was causing this palm to bend. So as soon as I saw the kink, out came the machete!

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Now it has all the room it wants and should enjoy more sun.

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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I love the roots on this thing. They are furry too.

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55 minutes ago, Mandrew968 said:

I love the roots on this thing. They are furry too.

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Wow, I thought they'd hate yr soil :)   She's a real fatty, look fwd to updates..       Pete

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Andrew, the trunk on yours makes mine in shade look puny!DSCN4159.thumb.jpg.109431fc24fb6c5c245d3

 

 

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Yeah, these don't like it here...

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6 hours ago, Mandrew968 said:

Yeah, these don't like it here...

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Nice to see such pictures of healthy happy palms,

Thank you!

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Here is an update on my ponapensis. 

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Here is Clinostigma samoense. Doing very well and getting thicker.

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Clinostigma doing well and looking reptilian.

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Hey Andrew.  That thing looks great.  How much did you amend the soil for her?  I am looking to replant in some areas here in the Keys that Irma destroyed.

Any advice would be appreciated. 

Has anyone else in the Keys given this one a try?

Joe

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On 1/22/2018, 5:07:47, Mandrew968 said:

Clinostigma doing well and looking reptilian.

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On 2/16/2011, 2:42:22, Ken Johnson said:

Bo has pix of it on his web site. Super cool! :mrlooney::mrlooney::mrlooney::mrlooney::mrlooney::mrlooney::mrlooney:

Hey Andrew.  That thing looks great.  How much did you amend the soil for her?  I am looking to replant in some areas here in the Keys that Irma destroyed.

Any advice would be appreciated. 

Has anyone else in the Keys given this one a try?

 

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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No amendments. But this soil has more marl to it which you may not have.

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On 4/10/2018, 5:23:43, BPK Palm Addict said:

Hey Andrew.  That thing looks great.  How much did you amend the soil for her?  I am looking to replant in some areas here in the Keys that Irma destroyed.

Any advice would be appreciated. 

Has anyone else in the Keys given this one a try?

 

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Hi Joe--

I had a nice, large, trunking Clinostigma ponapense on Big Pine, about the size of the pictured C. samoense above...and no, it did not like Irma's "let's go snorkeling on the reef at 150 mph" tour. We had 4-5 feet of ocean for 12+ hours at our place on the east side of the island. When I returned for initial damage assessment on 1 October, this one was a blackened casualty. I think Clinostigma (at least C. ponapense) are mountain/rainforest specific and just don't like saltwater.

Aside from our native palms--and many Coccothrinax argentata and Leucothrinax were killed outright as well--very little survived at our place other than the stalwarts Adonidia, Veitchia (V. arecina complex and V. joannis), Cocos, Hyophorbe, Latania, Roystonea, Ptychosperma elegans  and Ptychosperma lineare (all P. salomonense were killed). But some bright spots emerge with some mostly (to me) surprising survivors that you might want to try in your replanting: Ptychococcus paradoxus, Aiphanes minima, Chuniophoenix hainanensis and C. nana, Attalea cohune. Some specimens of Licuala grandis, L. distans and L. spinosa came through with varying damage while my other species of Licuala were completely crisped. Dypsis cabadae and D. pembana are I think quite notable in their good-to-excellent condition after the hurricane, especially considering that we lost virtually all of our Dypsis lutescens, which behaved very unpredictably: Many large stands of D. lutescens in our neighborhood are completely dead, others right next to them are recovering and look all right now. In our neighborhood there are other common and uncommon palms (e.g., Heterospathe sp., Syagrus schizophylla, Copernicia baileyana) that survived in good condition. You may also want to try your hand at some cycads, which almost universally did well...I have a few Cycas, Dioon, Zamia, and am now adding more for obvious reasons!

I hope you didn't lose too much. Onward and upward.

Michael

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Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

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Andrew (sorry, I didn't mean to hijack your thread with a hurricane report), I forgot to mention that your C. samoense looks very nice and I'm a little surprised because it looks like it's very exposed and I always thought of this one (and ponapense) as more protected, emergent light-gap species that don't like too much sun as youngsters. Also it looks like you have quite good proximity to the water where you are, did you experience some saltwater drenching during Irma? I heard there was some pretty good water-rise in various areas in Biscayne Bay. Now I'm wondering if C. samoense might have some resistance to saltwater, at least more than C. ponapense did for me...

Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Update on samoense.

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On 5/12/2018 at 7:47 PM, Mandrew968 said:

Update on samoense.

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How is the palm looking now? 

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I’d love to try savoryanum here. I think it would be a big hit and could even be a big box best seller if propagated and marketed accordingly.

Parrish, FL

Zone 9B

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